TTCoBS: The List Goes On

Date: 08/23/2001
From: Brand_S


The True Confessions of Brand_S

The List Goes On

For those who don't know, SpaceTime was responsible for a good half of the finale of the Dominion War and some other things sprinkled in intermittently. If Yeontoo hadn't coerced me into chatting with him that day, he would have died with buffyboy (although darkslider would have lived). The ending would have been a lot shorter, and would have basically been the same, save for the whole SpaceTime/darkslider scene. darkslider also provided a good deal of inspiration, mostly ways to lambaste Executive, which are always welcome.

For various reasons, but mostly because I felt an obligation to pay SpaceTime back, I participated in his extension of the Beret War... the Legion of Booze. If there's one thing I reserve the right to brag about, it's that I'm not what anybody thinks I am. I got to turn a few heads with my lewd, lascivious, lowbrow, lubricious, lecherous performance there. I'm still quite proud of that; nobody saw it coming, not even the people who put me up to it. Space thought I had the Sassmobile going too fast and I was addressing him and dark in an improper way, but he enjoyed it to no end. dark loved it, which I thought was awesome. When Sabre_Edge read about himself getting raped by she-male Olsen Twins and JorgeCis saw himself lighting his own farts and becoming a Teletubby's bitch... Well, I think they took it rather well.

All it really amounted to was an outlet for my own desire to get laid.

After that single chapter was done, I got started on my next project: The Gopher. This one took months for me to complete. Half the battle was psyching myself up to do it. The Gopher I am extremely proud of. It started as one spark of an idea: What would it be like to work for David E. Peckinpah, the biggest moron "Sliders" has ever seen? At this point, I tried to add more and more characters to pad it up.

· Jerry and Charlie O'Connell had to have egos that could level skyscrapers. Not that they care that most "Sliders" fans hate them. I heard one guy refer to them by their initials: JOC and COC, "the jock and the cock." But I abhor the word "cock." There's no grace, no subtlety, no finesse, no appeal, no potential for humor. It's an ugly, ugly, ugly word. Jerry, on the other hand, is indeed a jock.
· Sabrina Lloyd as a person had always ticked me off. Maybe she is cute, but when a cute chick is taken, it's really not worth gawking. I spent very little time on her for this reason.
· All I knew about John Rhys-Davies was that he was gonna be English and he was gonna hate Peck with a fervent passion.
· Cleavant Derricks was also scheduled to hate Peck... Then I read Space's interview with him. Total 180.
· Kari fucks everything... especially Peck. She has dildos that would make porn stars cry.
· All I knew about Damron was that he was always eating lunch. Isn't that enough?
· Bill Dial, on the other hand, I knew NOTHING about, except that being on top gives him a power trip. That's one of those things that's okay for lesbians, (MORE than okay for them.) but for producers who undermine their own TV shows... Well, I knew there was conflict a'brewin' there.
· Chris Black, Paul Leonard, and Paul Cajero were originally supposed to be like the horn section in "Cheech & Chong's Up In Smoke," but over time each developed their own personalities. They were, like, "the same... but different."

What I realized once I started extensively planning were two things. First, my main character needed a name; this isn't "Fight Club." Second, if he's the only one of my characters, this story will get real stale real fast. So, I made up some of my own...

· Joey Simms became my boy. By the way, I had this story in planning long before "Malcolm in the Middle" premiered. Any resemblance: purely coincidental. But boy, do both their lives suck! Joey is basically what I was when I was writing that story. Yes, my life has actually sucked THAT bad!
· Larva was the first one. She was originally given the same initials as Lotus Blossom, a former regular on the "other" message board; a manipulative girl who turned out to be a manipulative man. I also wanted a Darva Conger reference. Hence: Larva Buckley. After the story was written, after it was brought to my attention that she shares a last name with QBall79, and, contrary to my previous understanding of him, he's not an unnerving transsexual slut. This is when she acquired her final name: Larva Bosch.
· Da was added about midway through. I wanted her to have a name that only an idiot would give her. (Although it could also legitimately be a Japanese name; although the Japanese know better than to be as sexist, ageist, and xenophobic as they are, I wouldn't call THEM idiots.) It was intentional that we not see her resemblance to the Pecker until the end of the story.
· Miss Stillman is one of my all-time favorites of my characters. She's got the looks, but she's obviously mentally fucked-up-down-and-all-around. Although if I was dating a hot chick, a ten-year-age-difference would not matter. In case I haven't repeated it enough times: Me. Once. Flirt. With. Single. Mother. When every Catholic in the world believes she's already going to Hell, it really frees up a person's schedule. (If it seems like I'm being more imbalanced than usual right now, blame it on AC/DC. HELL'S BELLS! ... HELL'S BELLS! ... HELL'S BELLS! You can't tell me that you're not visualizing Angus Young dancing around onstage in that uniform picking away; catch his Lucky Charms!)
· Travis was 100% afterthought. He was added as I wrote the story. And, in a fit of pure creepiness, I have a friend who I met about year after having started the story. He shares Travis' personality AND name to a T!

So, after months of effort, uniting all these characters in what Blinker accurately called a "Sliders behind-the-scenes epic," now came the time for its spectacular premiere here! I mean, sure, we'll ignore the fact that one of my beta readers found it sick and disgusting; so was the Dominion War. The Gopher was going to change the message board and the Sliders community. Everyone would love my satirical skills; I'd be even more popular! So, with a big grin on my face, I posted it, just waiting for the replies to pour in! I got...

6 replies.

What the fuck?

What the FUCK?!

But I did all that work! All those "Sliders" references! I blended the fiction with the non-fiction. MISS STILLMAN, people, MISS STILLMAN!

So, I reposted another part.

5 replies.

Eusti, nole9, and DoctorQuinn continued supporting me, with additional aid from Yeontoo and Stoker_chick. But the replies got lower and lower after that. Despite most of these five people telling me that most of the place really is following The Gopher, how the hell do I know that if I end up averaging maybe 3.5 replies per post after the series' run ends? I ended up posting a comprehensive edition at the end, which netted maybe 8 replies, mostly because of my glowing praise of Tigs, whom I practically idolized at the time, and Blinker.

· Stoker_chick
Of all the people who are no longer posting, I miss Stoker_chick more than most. Despite the unwritten rule here that she and HunterD_Raven were an item, if I knew anyone like her in real life, I'd be her best friend, if ya know what I mean. A genius like her living in New Jersey almost seems too good to be true. I just hope she comes back here someday. Someday soon. She was on my AIM list for a long-ass time, but she never came online. I was extremely disappointed. I just hope she's still alive. (Now you can blame Pearl Jam. IIIII... I'M STILL ALIVE...)

Anyhow, I heard there was some confusion regarding this. I had always planned for this to be a 12-part story. I didn't cut it off early or anything, although if it wasn't pre-written I probably would have. But who cares? HurriKain is the only person left who even remembers it!

· HurriKain
I see HurriKain as representing the true old-timer spirit, without the jackassity that has consumed the lesser of his number. He hates Peck, he hates Kari, he hates the jock, and he loves those ol' early days. I'm just sorry he lives in New Orleans, but that's another story. HurriKain's a good guy, and he's the only other person who knows the true terror of being flipped off by Scooby Doo... on a unicycle!

At any rate, The Gopher left very deep scars in the Brand_S persona, as well as leaving said persona flat-out pissed off. But it was a year and a month ago, so I'm not as pissed as I was then. Running concurrently was the first season of BBSA: BBoard Sliding Adventures. This was a special Dominion War-inspired creation by Nobuyuki.

· Nobuyuki
You can't go wrong with a guy who is from the same place I am: Seattle. He's gone too, and I miss the hell outta him, because he knew how to shake it! (By "shake it" I mean write good stories... although I'm sure he's fully aware of how to urinate while at the same time making sure it all gets out.) But the hope that he's lurking springs eternal... as does the hope that someone will finish off BBSA. Nobuyuki is every bit as funny as I am. Just a shame he's not recognized as such.

I thought BBSA was (and still is) one awesome piece of work. One of the best I've seen on this message board. (That I'm a main character doesn't hurt either.) I liked it so much I volunteered to write my own episode. Again, afraid of being unfunny. I submit it and people eat it up. I got 7 replies, which for BBSA has always been a lot.

So, a few months after all this, I decided to find another thing to write. In response to all the fanfic seasons 6 lying around, I decided to write my own... with a little twist. It started as a blatant spoof of V6, then blossomed into its own series. (After all, I can only spoof V6 for the 2-3 episodes that were posted before the whole fucking thing went under.) All in one day, I got the idea for my own season 6, planned, and wrote the first episode. I also started on the second.

7 replies.

Shit, man. This wasn't going to get any better. The next episode had even fewer. Pretty soon I was averaging 2-3 replies. Each episode started taking longer and longer to write. By the end of that season I was spending a week on each episode. But did anybody give a shit? No.

So I moved the series around. I put it on an eGroup, on the "other" message board, I posted it here twice... Nobody cared. My latest episode on the "other" message board had 0 replies, 0 views for well over a week! It really pissed me off, considering that this series is the thing I'm most proud of, and the thing I enjoy writing the most.

So after a year of this shit, I made one last-ditch attempt at getting the attention of my peers: the Six Pilots of Brand_S. I had six ideas for different fanfic series. I was going to write a pilot for each and see how well-received they are. Unfortunately, after my computer crashed and was wiped, only one survived because I had the foresight to send it to RMScream.

· RMScream
Until recently, RMScream was always found in AIM, sharing decidedly lowbrow conversations with SpaceTime, CoolSlider, and myself. But I don't know what goes on on AIM now. I got tired of it after whole conversations were based on the merits of being a "cocksmoker" above a "cocksucker." It's a guy thing. At any rate, RMScream has always been one of my beta readers, because the guy is funny. I'm still surprised he's not better known around here.

At any rate, the only pilot that survived was the Green Ranger. But for me it was fresh, it was exciting, it was new. I tried posting it in August of 2001, hoping others would like it. If they didn't, I'd just give up. After all, I've been putting up with almost zero attention for about a year, and I've done everything about it I know how to do, all without success.

1 reply. ... It wasn't really even that positive a reply either.

To quote SpaceTime on a similar subject, "Fuck this."


Bravo

Date: 08/23/2001
From: FogBoy


I don't agree with everything you said. I doubt much of anyone here does. But it took some balls del brass to say some of the shit you said, and that in itself is worthy of applause. Too often, it seems, posters around here feel too afraid to spew forth their TRUE feelings. On others, on fanbase matters, on the board, hell, on everything.

Fact of the matter is, the fanbase has detiorated a little since the show ended. Surprise, surprise, right? Still, I think low reply numbers can be at least partially attributed to that.

I never did finish "S7: The S Way" after getting through S6. I still intend to catch up. But I didn't even read most of it until after S6 was over - hence the lack of my own replies. I replied to some when it was on this board, but then, when it was moved to a mailing list (banes of my existence) I took that as a sign that higher powers were making it too much trouble to read for a reason. I eventually bit the bullet and joined the list, sans the actual MAIL part of it, and have read all of S6. It kicks my ass. Of course, I've said before how god damn hilarious it is, but it bears repeating. Fans of Slidersesque comedy are missing out.

As for your "pilot" of Green Ranger... not only do I not have a clue as to what it's about, but I've never heard of it or seen it posted. I guess I missed out, but feel free to provide us, the curious after reading all these posts, with a link.

You may not want to read this.

Date: 08/23/2001
From: Tigs


What a bleeping load of bullbleep. You got replies so why are you bitching? I wrote fanfics that got nothing! NOTHING. Not one bleeping reply. Do you see me going off about it still? No. Get over it. Don't you dare bitch to me or to anyone who's had zero as their number of replies about how pathetic one to seven is. I'm sorry, but this is too bleeping much.

Your Dominion War was well received. Accept it for the praise it was and stop second guessing why it was well received. Your Gopher may not have gotten the acceptance you wanted, but apparentally you and your buddies had an answer for that. Let's make a little elistist group where we can post our fiction and praise each other since no one here sees our true genius. BLEEP YOU ALL!

You don't like the number of replies? Go talk to TM who averages 2 if he's lucky or Slider120 or Dorky. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you because you got seven replies.

I know that this is unexpected especially coming from me, but it is not ok to slap people in the face for supporting your work. That may not be what you intended to do since you profusely thank a few people for their support. It is what I read. I may not reply to your stuff often, but you know what? You don't reply to all of my fanfiction either. That doesn't mean I think you think less of me.

Now maybe this just hit a nerve because I've spent time in that dark bitter place. More likely, it hit a nerve because I am one of those people who's had no replies to my work. It offends me that you spend all of these posts on your thoughts and then you have the temerity to act like the injured party.

This is not a flame. This is me going off because what you said did hit a nerve.

Tigs

ps. Vulgar language bleeped by LiquidSunshine.


Damn!

Date: 08/23/2001
From: HurriKain

That was really, really deep. I feel your pain as in putting all that work in "Gopher". It was a VERY GOOD fic, and enjoyed reading every chapter. You captured the essence of JOC and Peck PERFECTLY... I damn near strangled my monitor. It also made me feel sorry for Joey for putting up with Peck's crap for so long. If I had to put up with Peck after one week, I would be sitting in jail due to first degree murder. :-)

There are times I thought about leaving. The reason why I didn't because... well... I have no other place to go. This bboard is like a second home to me, only with 30 or so roomates. Even at times if my ficcies aren't well recieved, I keep posting it for the people that still cared. I stuck around for all the friends I made here, namely you, Blinker, Tigs, SL4ever, dellyone/MSR, and others. At times they provide inspiration and wisdom but we also goof around and have fun. Besides, this bboard is the only place for me to present my ideas, show my insanity, and have a few laughs with others and I couldn't think of any other place to do that. (That and I like SciFi's BBoard format. :-)

You have a gift, man. Hell, the Dominion War proved that. And I would want you to keep posting ficcies. Even if they aren't well recieved as you hoped, still keep posting for the people that still care. People that want to experience something new until a movie ever does materialize. It's posts like these that keeps the bboard from dying.

Come back
HK


Time for me to go TI...

Date: 08/23/2001
From: Blinker


> 6 replies.

> What the fuck?

> What the FUCK?!

...

> 7 replies.

> Shit, man. This wasn't going
> to get any better.

Tigs has an excellent point. 6-7 replies is hardly a crushing snub... but complaining about it to those who've suffered far worse in the 'ignore' department kinda, well, IS. Yeah, it must've been a comedown after the smash success of the Dominion War, but really -- what other fan fiction has EVER rated that highly?

So I went back and compiled reply statistics on two of the best, and best-known, ongoing fanfics of our time (and by "our time," I mean "the last couple months"): SL4ever's "El Sid MSTied" and ThomasMalthus' E2013 instalment "An Infinite Number." These stories are TOTALLY Sliders-related, not to mention extremely intelligent, well-typed, coherent, and entertaining.

So considering how abysmally "Gopher" was treated, to the point of causing "very deep" psychological SCARS, surely THESE works got... oh, five... maybe six... TIMES as many replies as it EVER did, right?

=====

El Sid MSTied (1) - 5 replies
• EustiSlider
• ThomasMalthus
• MissingSliderMichele
• MissingSliderRyan
• Recall317
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/25931

El Sid MSTied (2) - 3 replies
• ThomasMalthus
• Recall317
• MissingSliderRyan
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/25942

El Sid MSTied (3) - 5 replies
• ThomasMalthus
• Recall317
• Blinker
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• MissingSliderRyan
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/25971

El Sid MSTied (4) - 3 replies
• ThomasMalthus
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• Recall317
• MissingSliderRyan
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26053

El Sid MSTied (5) - 4 replies
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• ThomasMalthus
• Recall317
• MissingSliderRyan
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26080

El Sid MSTied (8, as 6 and 7 were buried in a party post and can't be counted) - 3 replies, plus an aside from DMD to R317
• ThomasMalthus
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• Recall317
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26252

El Sid MSTied (9) - 3 replies; no, I'm not counting ST's completely fic-unrelated replies
• ThomasMalthus
• Recall317
• MissingSliderRyan
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26374

El Sid MSTied (10) - 3 replies
• ThomasMalthus
• Recall317
• MissingSliderRyan
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26391

El Sid MSTied (11) - 2 replies
• Recall317
• Weasel_Skippy_Ratboy
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26426

El Sid MSTied (12) - 6 replies
• ThomasMalthus
• Recall317
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• MissingSliderRyan
• The_Seer
• Blinker
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26454

El Sid MSTied (13) - 4 replies (nope, not counting TIP's)
• CrustiSlider
• Recall317
• Boris_and_Natasha
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26471

=====

An Infinite Number (1) - 3 replies
• The_Seer
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• Recall317
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26412

An Infinite Number (2) - 2 replies
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• IamBoris2001
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26434

An Infinite Number (3) - 2 replies
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• Recall317
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26464

An Infinite Number (4) - 3 replies
• The_Seer
• Recall317
• IamBoris2001
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26481

An Infinite Number (5) - 2 replies
• Recall317
• DieselMickeyDolenz
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26520

An Infinite Number (6) - 3 replies
• The_Seer
• DieselMickeyDolenz
• Recall317
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26534

An Infinite Number (7) - 2 replies
• Recall317
• DieselMickeyDolenz
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26550

=====

- The repliers -

Recall: 17
Eusti: 13
MSR: 10
TM: 9 (of the 11 posts he's eligible to have replied to, having written the others)
The_Seer: 4
Blinker: 3
IamBoris2001: 2
Everyone else: zip

> Despite most of these five people telling me
> that most of the place really is following
> The Gopher, how the hell do I know that if I
> end up averaging maybe 3.5 replies per post
> after the series' run ends?

Average reply count for "El Sid MSTied" posts: 3.73
Average reply count for "An Infinite Number" posts: 2.43

Sounds to me like you didn't fare so badly, dude. Personally, I just can't see how TM finds the will to go on LIVING, let alone pounding out kick-ass fan fiction for all us ingrates.

Oh, and don't get me STARTED on the number of replies that have long been accorded to most others... hell, Quinn's lucky to get even *ONE* reply to any given 214 episode, and when has it EVER gotten him down?

- Blinker 7:-|
http://slidersweb.net/blinker


Green Ranger Fanfic

Date: 08/23/2001
From: Slider_Quinn21


S-

Let me apologize for not replying to that post. I actually laughed out loud several places(the cologne scene was hilarious!), but I never took the time to reply.

And I honestly don't have a good reason why. I wasn't terribly busy, or I wouldn't have had time to read it. And its not like a reply takes more than 2 minutes(even on my slow computer) to write one.

So, for that I apologize. But I can bet that there were several people laughing out loud too that were as equally as lazy as me. You have fans. They just aren't talking for whatever reason...

Quinn
http://slidersweb.net/otherworlds/214

Of JOC, COC & Stochi

Date: 08/23/2001
From: HunterD_Raven


OK, I kinda think, but couldn't verify, that I more or less began the tradition of reffering to Jerry O'Connell & Charlie O'Connell as JOC & COC respectively.
To be honest at the time the Double-Entrede of the names didn't even cross my mind.
It was simply I got tired of typeing the words "Jerry & Charlie" during the BBoards real S5 invasion, so I shortened it.
Kind of like "Xmas" is short for Christmas.
--
Stochi, well, HANDS OFF S'BOY!!! ;)
Stochi is probably the only person from this entire BBoard and it's history I would really, really, want to meet in real, 3D, world.
I mean it'd be nice to meet TF, or You S, or EPT.
but Stochi, well, we're so simular it's scary.
there is the, as mentioned, unwritten rule she & I where an item, and if I ever met a person in the real world half as cool as she was, odds are you'd never see me here again, I'd be too busy hanging out with her.

Stochi ruled, her love of Fight Club got me to finally rent the movie I (like many) had assumed was a, well, 'fighting movie' and I became a big fan of it too (GOD what a twist ending!)
She seemed to have a lot of the same crap with the rest of the world I do...and even though the subject was never brought up, I'm quite sure she wouldn't object to my "NO KIDS' rule!

Stochi, wherever you are, we miss ya.
and incase you happen to lurk back around ,if you ever happen to drop by New Orleans, let me know, at the very least I can show you to Gargoyles clothing store.
--
D

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