Well since it seems like the flame days might be returning I wanted to write this so please read. (It all relates to sliders in a way TRUST ME)
This is my deal. When I was little I watched My Secret Identity, it was one of my favorite shows. It's star Jerry O'Connell, I LOVED the show. It's even part of the reason I started collecting comic books, a collection which is now huge and pretty valuable. Well a few years later, after that show (MSI) was canned I saw a commercial for a new show called SLIDERS, and I started watching for 1 very simple reason to see what Jerry was doing, to see what I THEN thought of as "Jerrys" new show.
I watched it, the big 2 hour premiere of Sliders, and by the end it had stopped being about Jerry, it wasn't "his" show, I'm not sure where it happened, the 1st Slide, the first Double, maybe when Wade died in it, but to me it stopped being about Jerry. It was about the show, the ideas of new worlds where things went so differently. Communists taking over, Worlds where the ice age is happening again, it was amazing and since I had always loved sci-fi it was the best Sci-fi show I had seen in ages. I have watched since DAY 1, and only missed 1 ep in all that time. I LOVE season 1-2 they where pure genius, frankly better than most Trek to me. Season 3 it started going downhill (and besides what some will tell you lots of the eps with Prof. sucked too) in season 3 the seeds where planted It became "Theme and action" over ideas. DRAGONS (Sword & Sorcery games) and Dinosaurs and Freddy Kruger wannabes, I didn't like it but I still watched, hoping it would get better. and there where a few (very few) good eps. It ended with a cliffhanger and since I didn't have the net it was a while before I found out that was IT, the series had been canned. Needless to say I was PISSED. I wanted to know if they ever got home, HOW THE FUNK did they slide "in the future" when the pre-established laws of sliding said NO time travel (or a very small amount of time, like Guardian) Then I heard SFC was picking it up, I was very happy....then I saw the season 4 premiere, they changed EVERYTHING in season 4. They where no longer from OUR WORLD like seasons 1-3 they where from a world the Maggs took over (not to mention how different the maggs looked)And now QUINN was from a different earth..and had a brother! Had I had the net at this time and was on this BBoard good lord knows I would have been bitching. NOW we go on, Jerrys acting went SEVERLY downhill, Kari was better than him in most of the eps. The only DECENT acting in all of season 4 was Clevant, and the scripts where almost as bad as season 3 (I was SO sick of maggs) I found this BBoard sometime during "Rerun Hell" of season 4 So I knew MONTHS before the season 5 premiere that Jerry & Charlie were NOT gonna be there. I saw the Season 5 premiere and liked it. WHY you ask, ill tell you why, Kari was doing good acting ,So was Robert (or atleast mediocre which is better than Jerrys work last year) and Tembi was good to me. Then I come online, in the chat and on the BBoard proclaiming Sliders death for the simple reason Jerry abandoned the show. They didn't care that this premiere was better than last years, they didn't listen when we said all the eps had been shot so Jerry was not coming back this year. Over the next few weeks it got even worse. ME and others got ran out of the chat simply because we LIKED the season, and because we didn't think Jerrys acting last year was that good. Me EPT(SOK666),INFORMANT TF Chaser9. Guys who had been on this board and in the chat for anywhere from Months (me) to Years (TF) where ran out of places we where used too. The flamers formed this board into a WAR. Guys like me and EPT where told we WORKED for the channel in order to think JOC was anything less than SPECTACULAR or that this season was not the worst ever.
After a while they left, infact it was only a few days ago at max that they left and some of the posters from before season 5 came back. SO excuse us if we seem to be a little harsh but we just went through a frigging WAR on the board and we don't want to relive it.
The deal is this Sliders rateing up until Java Jive where still good, about as good as season 4.
and to me Jerry did not make the show, unless you can PROOVE that WRITING, JRD,SABRINA,CLEVANT,Tracy Torme (the actual person who LITERALLY MADE SLIDERS) had NOTHING to do with it don't say he MADE it that is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine, SOK666 and several others.
I am quite sure I am still gonna argue with a few of the S5 bashers. but I wanted everyone to know MY history of sliders fandom.
HunterD

Truer words were never spoken.

Date: 8/30/99
From: stuslide

I agree a lot with what you are saying about this whole war thing. I wasn't here when it started twice (I was usually off for a week) and I was shocked when I came back and there was one going on since before I left (to focus on school for a week) I and a lot of people had finally gotten the board back to talking about and debating things SLIDERS.

As for the Jerry thing, I believe that given time (two more seasons) that Jerry (like Sabrina) would have made more appearances or we would have seen more conflict between Mallory's minds. I didn't realize how much of a fan of Wade's I was until she was gone and I said thru all of Season 4 that she would be back. My friends just laughed at me and said SLIDERS sucked...blah. blah. blah. Then (thanks to TF) I found out that Sabrina would be back in some form or another this season and I was happy as ass and I told my friends off and now they can't say anything. THe point to this being if all the flamers and people dissing SLIDERS because a specific star isn't on the show anymore and boycotting would just think it thru and wait PATIENTLY then someday the character (and/or actor) might have come back to the show.

I collect comics too so I know where you're coming from.

Stuslide
SLIDERS: ALTERNATE SPIN
www.angelfire.com/ky/sliderspinoff
"Just think of the possibilities."

Hurray!! Hunter read this please...

Date: 8/30/99
From: buffyboy

I, like you and stuslide, collect comics. None of the mainstream, Spiderman and Superman crap, but the good stuff from Dark Horse. Its sad really how the only NEW comics I buy are from one publisher..shows how much I dislike Marvel and DC ('cept for the occasional Bat-title. I also colllect b&w anthropomorphics from the 80's.). Anyway...I wanna start reading Sandman (Morpheus Sandman, not the other detective title..) So...Where should I start? I mean, should I pay ofr single issues or TPs? Just wonderin'...
I love Usagi Yojimbo, Hellboy, Aliens, Park Horse Presents, Terminator, TMNT,Tick, Fathom, and Buffy in case yer wondering...I like more, but those are really the only books i nuy on any regular basis.
BB=:~P
Ps-The Sliders comics published by Acclaim weren't that bad, I guess. I'd like to see more,possibly from Dark Horse as they acquired Xena (Sliders and Xena are both from Universal). But that's just wishful thinking...Never gonna happen.

Start reading Sandman with...

Date: 8/30/99
From: Saint_of_Killers_666

With the first Trade Paperback,Preludes and Nocturns.

I would also suggest you try out Preacher,Transmetropolitan,and Starman (All from DC/Vertigo).

None of them are your standard books,and Starman is the only one that is Superhero related.

I've always been an X-Fan...

Date: 8/30/99
From: s_the_great

for some reason or another. I know, I know, I'm a mainstream guy. But I've been into X-Men, X-Force, and Gambit for a while, and I'm not stopping just because they dumped Bishop, put in someone like Marrow, and have no originals on the team.
And Hunter, you know how I feel about this whole S5-basher situation, so feel I don't need to say anything.

S

I agree on most..

Date: 8/31/99
From: SliderT

I agree with alot of what you said, however I liked season 3 & 4. I didn't like all the Magg storylines some would have been OK. I am not a JOC fanatic but I do miss him on the show. I liked his bad acting over robert floyds bad acting. I don't want to get into a flame war, there are several episodes I have enjoyed this year. I just think the new characters could have been developed a little more. My choice between no Sliders and the current cast would be to continue with the current cast. I have been a fan since day one and I can honestly say season 5 is not my favorite season and I would take season 4 over it any day. Just my opion, I don't want to start a flame war.

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