You know what, QBall79?

Date: 5/31/2000
From: SpaceTime

I've got the Bible. It's in my car. I know TF has one on his way. I've seen it. I've perused it. I don't care WHAT YOU'VE *HEARD*. Because you see, while you've been playing phone tag with Tracy Tormé, I've been meeting these people live. Face to face. And even though you've got the initial Tormé connection, who set up the online chat with him? And conversely, who made a fool of himself when they had to call Tormé and explain their bitter online politics to him when they didn't believe he was above board?

Who's spoken with Cleavant Derricks in person and had him call him at home? Who shared these experiences on their web site? Who, for Christ's sake, LIVES IN LOS ANGELES, where all these people work and live?! Will you get off your pious fucking horse and realize that not everything you hear is on the level and will you for once in your goddamn life appreciate that I'm sharing something with the Sliders community?

All I did was tell people I got a hold of the show's Bible. And then you have to write a post saying that you heard from Tormé and Weiss it doesn't exist. And THEN, instead of saying, "Ooops, I'm wrong," you pull in another name! If you'd bothered to read my original post, loam nut, you'd realize that MSZ was probably right, in that there was no bible for the fourth and fifth season. I EXPLAINED THAT.

You have had a huge chip on your shoulder ever since January 4, 2000, and even though I tried to make amends it was never enough. First, you pulled your web sites from my server because you didn't want your name *sullied* with mine despite the fact that 98% of the people on the Internet that view either of our sites don't frequent the BBoard. And regardless of what you said or continue to say, you were the only person directly involved in the Joke and you thought it was FUNNY AS HELL until your BBoard reputation became a commodity and you flipped faster than a Thai whore on a Simmons mattress. I have the AIM chats with you, with Blinker, with JorgeCis. I kept EVERYTHING. You are not without blame. Hell, you posted the first reply with only minor explanation on my part!

And let me clear the air here, folks: in all the absolutions I wrote on the BBoard earlier in the year, where I cleared everyone as not being a part of the Joke? Well, QBall79 was. And you can't deny it because, like it or not, the post is there. No amount of backpedaling, nor James' insistence that his stomach churned (why a joke on an online bulletin board would make anyone sick to their stomach is beyond me), nor assertions that I would never reveal the hoax (which is a flat-out LIE) can erase the first post under "The RKWeiss Lie... Exposed." And while I am not without blame, it is James' post that legitimized the whole thing.

Then, in the Tormé chat, you act like a complete ass and when I keep your immense idiocy under wraps for the sake of the chat, you tell BBoarders you will not post the transcripts because of a lack of enthusiasm. And you never did apologize. At least TF and Blinker did. We came to an understanding and are still friends. But you, James, hold such an amazing grudge that even Brand_S picked up on it and posted it in his Dominion War.

Even months later, it's obvious that you think I'm some maniacal FUCK who is out to burn, pillage and rape this little online community. How would I ever come to such a conclusion? THIS POST:

http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/20542/25

This is in the midst of your pointless assault on Jorge:

> As for 'The Joke,' I was not in on it.

Yes, you were.

> I don't plead ignorance either. I plead deception.

Ugh. I spent half an hour talking to you about how funny it would be, how JLBanker came up with the idea the previous night and showing you the text BEFORE it went onto the BBoard and you plead ignorance?

> I was deceived into thinking that it was a temporary
> gag by a person not unlike yourself, and whom you
> appear to worship for some reason.

First off, let's address the fact that good ol' QBall79 here is likening Jorge to me and casting a negative light on that similarity. Now, I don't think Jorge is anything like me. He's a math student at Princeton who is sensitive and a very personable guy. I'm a wiseass writer from Southern California. The only thing Jorge and I have in common is that we were on the same SIY team last year. That and our mutual interest in "Sliders."

Second, WORSHIP? Are you fucking daft? Since when does ANYONE worship me? I'm gonna stop right here on this one, because that's just a war waiting to happen.

Lastly, I'll admit you were deceived. Here's the deception:

The day "The RKWeiss Lie... Exposed" went up, James and Jorge were barraged with IMs asking the truth of the post. They asked me to post an immediate withdrawal of the statement. I said "Give it 24 hours at least." So, because of that, QBall was deceived into thinking I would NEVER post that it was a joke. We get shit like this:

> When I learned that Matt didn't intend to reveal
> the hoax, I let people know it was a hoax.

According to QBall, and this is a fairly static assertion on his part, I never intended to reveal the hoax. And even though I told him in CHAT and in EMAIL otherwise, he still peddles this bullshit.

> You [Jorge] knew good and well what was going on.

So did you.

> You even sang Matt's praises in chat after it went
> down.

So did you! You are NOT ABOVE THIS, JAMES. You ACTIVELY participated in the Joke, LAUGHED YOUR ASS OFF ABOUT IT with me on AIM and only got skittish when the shit hit the fan.

> Of course, I think it's really half admiration and
> half fear. You were so scared Matt was going to do
> something to those who condemned him.

Am I really so fearsome, you rube? I flame people on the BBoard who act like idiots. Oooooh! Run for the hills, Pa! I really don't understand you, James.

> If you were so furious about the Joke post, why
> didn't you reply to that thread? You sure as hell
> don't have a problem expressing your feelings now.
> What stopped you then?

Jorge expressed his feelings directly to me. He was afraid the Joke would go too far too fast and, like you, wanted me to post a retraction. But see, unlike you, I told HIM I would post a retraction the following day. Why make a post to the BBoard about it if he's been told it'll be taken care of?

> I had learned the truth, and it sickened me.

There's your queasy stomach again, James.

> I had to set the record straight, and I did. I
> didn't stand by and let it die down. Sure I had my
> personal interests in doing so, but that is beyond
> the point.

No, James, it is exactly the point. In fact, it is the FOCAL point of your obsession with the Joke. Your BBoard reputation means more to you than a friendship, bottom line. How can I make that assertion? Simple. Despite hosting your web site for FREE and helping you develop some of your broken Java coding, in addition to letting you have essentially total access to EARTHPRIME and any of its files as well as extending my hand in friendship to you in 1999, you immediately severed ties to me. I could drag out the chat from AIM but I don't think the public needs to see that. What counts is that you did. Because your fucking BBoard ego is more important that carrying on a dialogue with a guy who liked and respected you.

> Big or small, the truth should be a priority.

If it's such a priority, then why the FUCK are you lying? You WERE involved. You CANNOT DENY THAT.

> Remember this?
> http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/16237
> I posted this the VERY next day, making it CLEAR
> that I was not involved.

You were. And your insistence otherwise only shows that instead of exposing the truth and coming clean, you are solely interested in making your BBoard image as squeaky clean as possible so that slippin_slider can say things like "id trust Qball over spacetime any day."

I've let the whole affair lie for five full months because there was absolutely no point in trying to defend myself when pretty much the whole board hated me, and with good measure. But your incredibly deep-seated animosity towards me, which I can assume stems from no other reason than you got burned during the Joke and again when you got burned for having to call Tracy Tormé for not believing it was really him during the chat (hmmmm, wasn't that ridiculously embarrassing?), defies me. I mean, hell, I never revealed until now just what your role was in the Joke, however limited it was, and I never posted you, TF or Blinker berating the chat before it was even over let alone your unprovoked attack on me after I left the chat room (both times) in DISGUST, an attack that Yeontoo gave me which subsequently put her on YOUR bad side, too. I left well enough alone and yet you still manage to sling a little mud at me from time to time.

You've emailed Robert K Weiss *and* Tracy Tormé telling them not to converse with me and telling them a) who I was, b) who my AIM account c) names of emails I had previously sent them and told them never to talk to me EVER because of the type of person I am (which as we've seen, is a fear-inspiring God that demands worship from people like Jorge to prevent divine retribution for doing NOTHING), going so far as to tell them that you've severed all ties from me for doing such heinous acts... to a BULLETIN BOARD.

Just a few days ago you made a veiled attack on me about my hosting of Expert's old capsules. Pointless beating of a dead horse. Get over it.

Despite all of the shit you've thrown my way since January 4, James, at the very least I have respected your contributions to Sliders and I have respected that you place so much of your ego on this BBoard.

No more.

For some mind-bending, unknown reason, James, you seem to think you are God's gift to the Dominion BBoard. You aren't. You're just some fucking dude that paid an internet service $20 for Tracy Tormé's home address and subsequently nutted when you got a response. Let me let you in on something: I know Tormé's email, too. I know his office phone number. I've talked to his assistant, same as you. I've got Bob Weiss' email, same as you. In fact, A LOT of people here have all the same information AS YOU. But you know what? They don't develop a GOD COMPLEX from it the way you seem to have. TF is the most connected man we know and he's one humble son of a bitch.

You run a backwater Sliders web with little appreciable content other than Blinker's amazing Gate Haven, of which you contribute nothing and host only because Blinker opted not to tell me his name. You HOLD INFORMATION OVER PEOPLE'S HEADS LIKE YOUR ARE A BIG BROTHER TORMENTING HIS SIBLING WITH A LOLLIPOP. How dare you threaten not to post the Tormé chat when it was not yours to post in the first place? And then when I let you (or whoever else from the chat who transcribed it first) post it without my name so as to maintain the integrity of the part with Tracy's comments, you act like a bastard. Were you joking? Well, the joke sure was on everyone else! 6 or 7 people pleading Big Poppa James to please let them see what nuggets he might throw their way. You asshole.

Like me, you lucked into a spot of prominence on the BBoard. I did because I'd been around awhile, but even in the face of being a total pariah, I made sure that I placed friendship over my own reputation. Because your reputation is only as good as the friends who stand behind it. And I am truly glad you no longer stand behind me, because it would only be a matter of time before you stabbed me in the back. Again.

- ST

What? No replys?

Date: 6/1/2000
From: Slider39

I have no idea what thats all about, but it was interesting!

Where can I find this Torme chat?

Date: 6/1/2000
From: houseguest

Hi. I'm new to this board, mostly a lurker. Please do tell: where can I read this chat transcript? I don't post often because of the apparent numerous private wars being waged on this BBoard (it kinda makes the environment seem unfriendly), but I'd really like to see the Torme transcript, if someone wouldn't mind posting the address, that is. I would appreciate it.

The Tormé URL

Date: 6/1/2000
From: SpaceTime

Here it is:

http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/16381

-ST

Thanks, SpaceTime <end>

Date: 6/2/2000
From: houseguest

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