"Enterprise" pays homage to Sliders?

Date: 08/21/2001
From: SpaceTime

"Hey, at least it hasn't been done before!"
- Infocalypse

Right.

Original my ass. It's been done plenty of times, even on "Sliders." Take a look for yourself (spoilers below):

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'Unexpected' - This apparently very funny episode will feature the male pregnancy first mentioned by Rick Berman in the recent TV Guide interview (story). 'Unexpected' opens when malfunctions start to occur on the Enterprise, and the crew notice an alien ship hiding in their exhaust wake. It turns out that the aliens are there to recharge their ship to try and get home. The Enterprise engineer, Charlie 'Trip' Tucker, goes over to the aliens to help them repair their ship - but unwittingly BECOMES PREGNANT IN THE PROCESS! (emphasis added)

Trip manages to fix the ship, and it departs. Once the crew figure out that Trip is indeed pregnant, they try to track down the aliens, and find them hiding in the slipstream of a Klingon ship. The Klingons are not at all receptive to Captain Archer and threaten to destroy both the alien ship and the Enterprise. For a change, T'Pol helps Archer resolve the situation, and the Klingons agree to leave the aliens unharmed - if they agree to trade some primitive holo-technology.

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Also interesting is that the guy who gets knocked up is Connor Trineer, who played Samson in "Prophets and Loss."

Does Tucker land on a wasp nest, too?

ACK.

- ST

More Red Dwarf than Sliders.

Date: 08/22/2001
From: Slider_Sarah

Season 2, episode 6 (season finale)'Parallel Universe' of Red Dwarf, 1989 I think (Blinker?)

The Red Dwarf crew try to get home, but inadvertantly transport themselves to another universe where it is female opposites of all of them and history etc. They have to repeair the 'Holly Hop Drive' and while there, Lister sleeps with his female opposite (I swear Rimmer did as well, but they're holograms so it didn't matter) and because they are in that universe, their laws apply and because in that universe the men have the babies, Lister gets pregnant.

However, the children cannot be kept in Lister's universe because it affects them since they were conceived in the other one, so in the text a la Star Wars in episode 1, season 3 (Backwards) they have to go back to the universe to give them to the other crew.

Not that it makes much difference. It's still unoriginal. Just twice unoriginal instead of once.

Sarah.
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Common Matt...

Date: 08/22/2001
From: Joey_Starr

You did not provide any proof of this whatsoever! I am sick and tired of your hoaxes! It is this type of behavior that destroys our angelic community! Don't you realize they will never want to make a Sliders movie if you keep spreading more lies?
You have once again ruined any chance we have ever had of seeing more/a resolution to Sliders and ruined the Sliders community! I'm telling!!

JS

PS
Just felt like being weird today. Yes, I know I'm weird all the time but today I FEEL like it so there! :p~~

PPS
This post was meant in no way to insult anyone, just me bein goofy! Hey, I'm on vacation! Give me a break!

:)

It even happened on TNG

Date: 08/22/2001
From: SpaceTime

Now that I'm thinking about it more, I remember a NextGen episode called "The Gift" where Troi became the unwitting surrogate to a child, so the whole "weird pregnancy" angle *has* been done by Trek. And since "The Gift" was written for Phase 2 (the 70s Star Trek series that never materialized), I'd say there's no originality in the premise. Not to say that Berman/Braga are trying to be original... they've proven time and again that they aren't (look no further than VOY's 'Endgame').

Sarah, I've only been able to see the first season of "Red Dwarf" and read the first two books. I think in "Better Than Life" they find a half dozen parallel universes linked by a black hole, right? I remember one being a backwards time world, maybe one was a reverse-sex world like you saw on the show?

LOL, Joey. :)

- ST

It's been done a lot...

Date: 08/22/2001
From: Informant

The idea of men being pregnant has been done a bunch of times. From Alien Nation, to the movie, Junior.

It's not an original idea by anyone anymore. Sliders, Trek, or whoever does it next. It's just another scifi cliche. Might as well have T'Pol become the queen of an alien species while the rest of the crew is planning a revolt against that government.

This is why most scifi/fantasy shows suck. They are rarely original anymore. Instead of producing quality shows, the producers are out to have a franchise that will make money from the idiotic scifi geeks who will watch anything with a computer generated laster blast.

I can make fun of scifi geeks. I post on a Sliders board, that has to mean something about me, right? :-)

Exactly.

Date: 08/23/2001
From: SpaceTime

Informant wrote:

"This is why most scifi/fantasy shows suck. They are rarely original anymore. Instead of producing quality shows, the producers are out to have a franchise that will make money from the idiotic scifi geeks who will watch anything with a computer generated laster blast."

And the worst part is that people who create sci-fi shows know that the audience that they're catering to is intelligent and appreciates intelligent stories that push conventions and don't necessarily have an easy wrap-up. They know this and then proceed to create plot-driven scenarios that don't evolve organically and hope the SFX budget will gloss over their lack of innovation.

Grrr.

- ST

ST - Re: Red Dwarf

Date: 08/23/2001
From: Slider_Sarah

Better Than Life is a computer game (not one of the best episodes IMHO. Granted, not one of the worst either, since series 7 and 8 were dire)

I remember something about several universes joined by a black hole. I think that was in the book rather than the show. I haven't read the books (all 4 of them) for a while, so I'm not entirely sure.

Backwards time world (as depicted in the book Backwards) is in the epsidoe Backwards also. The books are actually quite different to the TV show in many ways. They share certain bits of plot, but so much is different. In the books, I don't think they ever create the Holly Hop Drive.

The first two books are the best ones. Grant and Naylor work best as a team.

You know, once uppon a time, I would ahev been able teel of everything, book and TV. Now I find my self slightly confused. Only slightly mind :-)

Sarah.

;-)

Date: 08/23/2001
From: SpaceTime

Well, I'm completely nuts, so it's okay. ;)

The third and fourth book have, to my knowledge, never even been released here. I remember hearing about "Backwards" and "The Last Human" but try as I might they are not available in bookstores. I also heard that they both take place immediately after "Better than Life," so the books don't follow each other. Ack.

I agree with you on the first two books. Hilarious stuff! The GELFs had me laughing for a good solid hour or so. :)

- ST

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