The Seer (Real SPLRS)

Date: 8/5/99
From: TemporalFlux

Never let it be said that a great idea can't be royally f***ed up (pardon my language, but it's appropiate). And the cliffhanger? I've never felt more screwed in my life. But if you want to continue on and read what the season five finale, "The Seer" is really about...go ahead. You may want to save yourself the pain, however.

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The episode opens with Diana resetting the timer to take them back to Earth Prime (as seen in Genesis). With the events of "Eye of the Storm", all 4 Sliders have just decided to go to their respective homes. Diana and Mallory will be going back to "Unstuck Man" earth...while Remmy and Maggie go back to Earth Prime. Remmy is quite distraught about going back empty handed to face the Magg threat...but he sees no other recourse...and Maggie has said she will stick with him.

They jump in the vortex and land inside an empty Cathedral...and when they open the doors, they find a large group of waiting people cheering their arrival holding signs that say "Welcome Sliders" and the like.

Two people come up from the group to greet the Sliders...Marc LeBeau (known as The Seer) and his daughter Claire. Once they greet the crowd...our next shot is the Sliders inside The Seer's mansion later in the day.

Inside the mansion, they find all sorts of Sliders merchandise...a Diana action figure, a hard cover novel titled "Virtual Slide by The Seer", and several oil paintings that depict the Sliders past exploits (such as the Kromagg/Human battle from "Strangers and Comrades" and another of the Sliders dressed as they were in "Java Jive"). While Mallory is reading the fall edition of the Sliders catalog, The Seer explains how this came to be.

It turns out the old man had a heart attack a few years back, and ever since he has a second sight. He somehow gained the ability to see throughout space and time and centered in on our group of Sliders. He has been able to see their adventures...and it is clearly stated by him that he deeply felt the loss when the Professor and Miss Welles died (just the first of the finality theme of the ep). This convinces the Sliders he's legit if he knew about that.

Then The Seer goes on to explain how it was their exploits that encouraged that world to fight when the Kromaggs came. Yes, the Kromaggs came to that world...and that world drove them off using a virus. Remmy is ecstatic...he can now save his world. But The Seer informs him of something...he has had the most vivid vision he has ever had, and if they slide past the world they are on...the very next world will bring all 4 instant death. And on top of that...the Sliders are informed that the virus can't be made before they leave...it takes two days to incubate.

As we delve into it, we find that the Sliders television show features Maggie, Remmy, Diana and Professor Arturo. That world's doubles of the characters were used for the show...but no Quinn Mallory ever existed on that earth, so he wasn't used. For some reason they got an actor to portray Arturo to fill out The Seer's visions (it's never really explained why...sigh) We also find out the The Sliders have kind of grown into a religion on that earth...like Scientology. The Universtity even teaches classes and has the 4 S club...The Seer's Students for Sliders Society.

The Sliders attend a very large banquest where they meet their actor doubles...and they see Mrs. Mallory. The Seer explains that this *is* the Mrs. Mallory (Linda Henning) they knew from Earth Prime (and Quinn found in the jail in Genesis)...she was left on this world by the Kromaggs along with many other refugees (camps were set up on that earth). This leads to a heart warming moment where Mallory explains to Mrs. Mallory that there is nothing of her Quinn left. The Seer then makes an announcement that the Sliders have decided to stay to stave off their impendng death he foresaw...the only problem is, the Sliders never said that. Remmy and the others storm off...a little later, they decide they will slide on anyway (even without the virus-they decided to come back for it)...the timer reaches zero, the vortex opens...Remmy and Maggie go to jump in...and they bounce off! Mallory tries...and he bounces off! The vortex closes...and off dumbfounded Sliders we end Act Two.

When Act Three begins...the Sliders find the timer reset. Instead of 29 years...they have 3 days to the next window (the Sliders are confused...no explanation really ever given). Thinking that the Seer has the most to gain by keeping them there, they go to him. He knows nothing of what happened.

Taking the opportunity, the Sliders begin to try to get the virus made (now that they have time). Diana and Mallory go to find Claire while Remmy and Maggie go to the college. Here we find out a few interesting bits of trivia while students quiz each other (like Maggie's middle name is Allison). Through some discussion, the professor there tells them that the virus is in everyone's blood on that world...all they would need is a sample to inject into a carrier, then go to the world with Kromaggs and spread it. The Professor then gives him some blood (a diabetic happens to be nearby and they borrow his needle).

Then we cut over to Mallory and Diana. They couldn't find Claire...but when they go to find Mrs. Mallory, they find she is being abducted. Mallory gets in a fight to save her...the timer falls on the floor...and then one of the goons takes a floor lamp and smashes the timer into a million little pieces. End of Act Three.

We enter Act Four with Diana holding the timer pieces and twisted smoking circuitry in her hand...Remmy and Maggie walk in to see this (the goons are gone and Mrs. Mallory is safe). Remmy's comment - "Please tell me that's not what I think it is..." So, the timer is gone. Mrs. Mallory then finally opens up. She claims she didn't tell before because she was afraid Mallory would leave her there. Anyway, Mrs. Mallory explains that the Kromaggs left in a big hurry...which means they left *alot* of equipment behind. She explains that the government got a lot of it...but Claire also hoarded a large stockpile. She tells them where Claire is...and the Sliders go off in hope that a sliding device is there. Also, before they leave...Mallory has a moment with Mrs. Mallory. Telling her that there must be a small part of Quinn still inside him because he feels a strong connection to her. And that even though she isn't his real mom...he feels she is more of a mom than he's ever had.

They get the storehouse to find a beat up interdimensional machine. It is operating as a hyperspatial force field to keep out any Sliders...but it also keeps people in (which is why the Sliders couldn't slide). Claire (who shows up after they get there) explains that the Sliders trip to that world was on purpose. She used some of the equipment to divert them there and then turned the force field back on to keep them from leaving. She claims she needed them because Sliderology is badly in debt...and having the real Sliders there would be an enormous shot in the arm to the cause. Claire claims she had the timer destroyed because she knew they would keep trying as long as they had it. And now she is going to force them to stay there and cooperate...by killing off the real ones and having the doubles take their place. In Mallory's case, she says that the TV writers will explain it...their just "hacks who do anything for a buck anyway" (what a fitting line).

The Seer then comes in...having had a vision about what was going on, he wanted to get down there to stop his daughter. He is heartsick his daughter would do this...it's not what he wanted. And he is so distraught he has a heart attack. Claire tells one of her bodyguards to take him out of there...Remmy uses the opportunity to pick up a tube off the floor and shock the bodyguard (it was a Kromagg weapon...Remmy recognized it), and then he gets the gun from Claire.

As The Seer is laying on the floor dying...they try to help him, but nothing can be done. The Seer informs them that more security forces are on the way by advance order from Claire...and they don't have much time. They fire up the Kromagg sliding machine...but it's so damaged that it can only make a vortex the size of a manhole. One person can go...that's it. Diana has set the coordinates to Genesis Earth Prime, and they are trying to decide who will go (even though The Seer's words said that the next slide would mean instant death). While they are debating...Remmy injects himself with the blood sample and moves up to the vortex. The other Sliders object...but it's too late. Remmy quickly tells them that if he survives, The Seer will see it and tell the other Sliders the coast is clear...then after they fix the machine, they can follow (guess Remmy forgot about Claire and security on the way...sigh). Remmy jumps in...the vortex closes.

The Sliders then run over to The Seer to see what he says...but he ain't breathin'. The Seer is dead...he has no way to tell them if Remmy survived...

So, with Remmy maybe back on Earth Prime (who knows if that's even where he went)...probably dead...and the 3 other Sliders stranded on an Earth where wacko Claire and her in route security forces are about to ventilate them (with no Seer left to stop his daughter)...we fade to...

The End

Now, I believe I'm going to go find a nice quiet corner and regurgitate for awhile...

Tf
temporalflux@hotmail.com
http://www.dimensionofcontinuity.com

Thanks TF

Date: 8/5/99
From: humaggs

Thanks for telling us what The Seer is about. I don't like how it ends though. I wonder if we will ever find out what happens to Remmy after he slides. If we do find out I hope we find out the Seer said it would be instant death just for they would stay there.
Humaggs

It stands to reason

Date: 8/5/99
From: Hyperspace

Seemed like Tracy Torme was the first,last,and only producer of sliders that really gave a darn about what the fans wanted.

Well they killed of the professor,Wade, Quinn and now they finally killed of the last carracter. Hope they are proud of themselfs.

Thanks for the info TF
Hyperspace

Thanks...I think

Date: 8/5/99
From: QBall79

For real...thanks for breaking it to us. Man, what a load of crap. Not so much the episode (although it could have been MUCH better), but the thought that Sci-Fi cancelled on THAT note. Those bastards. I thought Genovese said the show involved the original characters...why did he say that? And what about the part where he says, "Mr. Mallory!"? A.G. also said he was in A Current Affair, but I didn't see him.

I expected so much more from this episode. I have to wonder if these writers intentionally screw these stories up, because any of us here could have come up with something better. I liked Chaser9's idea for the cliffhanger, about the timer being switched with a prop, and the actors sliding out with the real timer.

Anyway, thanks again. Talk to you later.

Q-Ball79
http://go.to/SSN

P.S. - Where's MSZ when you need him? ;-)

Well, at least...

Date: 8/5/99
From: SliderNum5

It leaves a good ending to pick up in a fanfic or even a book? I really hope it is solved in at least another way.

~SliderNum5

I Feel A Strong Pain...

Date: 8/5/99
From: Serena12

That's It!?
That's how it ends!?
If what you say is true, I think I should just stop watching the Friday night episodes. They can't do that to us! Not to dis you but, I sure hope your info is wrong!

I say if Sliders doesn't get picked up..

Date: 8/5/99
From: buffyboy

...again we do NOT count s4 and s5 as continuity. it never happened. Wade's not a head, Colin was never there, Earth Prime is still safe, and Quinn and Maggie are still trying to find Wade and remmy..Man this sucks!!! How could they do that to us? How in the worlds did the first version of the Seer get leaked or made up or whatever? Is nothing sacred to sci-Fi? how could they pass this horrible script?
Bb=:~)

What I think

Date: 8/5/99
From: humaggs

If Sliders does get picked up or something this is what I hope happens. I hope we find out the seer lied about the next slide being certain death. I think he lied for our sliders would stay and take the spot of the sliders on that world.
To me it makes since, Claire said she made them come here for they can take the spots of the other sliders, to get sliderology out of debt. She said the reason she had there timer broken is for they wouldn't leave. She also said the kromagg devise made it so no one could slide off of that world, I think it is for the sliders won't leave. So I think the seer lied just for they would stay and get sliderology out of debt.
Humaggs

Thanks TF, but what a sour and

Date: 8/5/99
From: bebeto

unfulfilling end to a great series which started with the boyish wonder and innocence of Quinn in the Pilot and had so much great
comraderie among the sliders on their long journey.

There's Still Hope! READ!

Date: 8/5/99
From: Serena12

Great News!!!
I just checked out the Earthprime synopsis of the final episode and it is somewhat different, I feel it is a more dignified(it still isn't really as dignified as it should be but..)well, just find out for yourself. It's at Earthprime.com under the Season 5 section.

My opinion...

Date: 8/5/99
From: wlleni

That was the most stupidest piece of crap I ever read!! How in the world can they do that to Sliders?!! the show deserves an entirely better ending!! FOOLS... the whole lot are fools(writers and producers I mean) for putting that on the air as a finale. II could see it as a regular episode, but a finale! Scifi get real!

Ooooooooooh I read it..........!!!!

Date: 8/5/99
From: RealmKeeper

Sadly I couldn't hold myself back and I read the dame thing. Its so f***ing stupid I'm pissed off...maybe I'll come to terms with this but I doubt it. SCIFI Sucks!!aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

I can't believe this......

Date: 8/5/99
From: Aelita

You know, after I read synopses for Requiem, I thought nothing Scifi does from now on can shock or hurt me. (I'm not even going back to the way they got rid of Wade in Genesis or Quinn) Boy, was I wrong. They are on the roll aren't they???? I should have listened to your warning TF and save myself the pain(and sanity).
Just remember SCIFI, what goes around, comes around. You #$%^ your viewers, they're gonna @#$% you!
**Sorry, had to vent**
Thanks for the info TF.

Aelita.
There is a theory, which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something, even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another, which states that this has already happened.
Douglas Adams

hmmmmmmm.

Date: 8/5/99
From: SouthernSlider

This is NOT what I wanted to here.

Although it does leave options, I'm not liking it.

SS

Hunters Opinion

Date: 8/5/99
From: HunterD_Raven

To copy Thor from Marvel Comics...I SAY THEE NAY!!!!!!!
I dont curse alot but DAMMN THEM TO TARTURUS!!!
I swear...PECK is behind this..i just know it. Only he could F up the idea THIS BAD!
ARGHHH. This is so...we all know my feelings on Jerry and Charlie. But compared to my feelings about Sci-Fi and whoever did this to sliders I love them.
To paraphrase The Incredible hulk. HUNTER SMASH PUNY SCI_FI CHANNEL.
Well..atleast i know Penance will come.
Vengance is a dish best served cold. but the anger i feel right now wont even have time to cool down after i see this ep before SCi-Fi is off the air.
Hey Execs..do some math. Sci-Fi rateings - EVERY fan of sliders = 0 rateings. At best when we boycott your ROODY POO butts after you air this you will be lucky to get 0.1 in the neilsons. Your station won't even live long enought to show the 3rd seaon of the CRAP-TACULAR 1st wave.
I can only quote the Sandman and say
Your life is your own. Your death, likewise.
I do not threaten, I merely advise caution.
HunterD

Well SHIT!!!

Date: 8/5/99
From: Sliding_Cpt_Bridger

MOTHER #$@&ER!!!! IS THAT ANY #$@&ING WAY TO END A SERIES!!? I DON'T #$@&ING THINK SO!!! WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THINKING!!!? YOU *STUPID* SONS OF BITCHES!!! THIS ISN'T SEASON 3 DAMNIT, IT'S SEASON 5!! YOU'VE ABOVE THIS!!

Well, I'm mad!! You don't like what I say or the way I say it? Well, I really don't give a flying #$@& anymore. The show doesn't have a hope in hell of getting picked up now! They've gone and #$@&ed it all up!! Here I've been sitting, typing like a mad little dick, and working my royal ass off TRYING to help get the show renewed, or at least get a TV movie or something, but #$@&!!! I guess I just did it all for nothing because no one with half a #$@&ing brain would even THINK about touching this.

Though it is usually uncharacteristic of me, I quit. I'm tired of worrying about whether or not the damned show will make it. We've all worked very hard at trying to get the show back, and look where it has gotten us. And what's more.....we've made ourselves look like a bunch of horses asses in the process! Sci-fi never had any intention of renewing SLIDERS, and there's no way anyone like UPN's going to get it, because they don't have the money to buy it from Sci-Fi. So you know what? I quit!!! I quit caring; I quit writing. I'll probably watch the rest the season, I don't know if I'll watch the reruns or not, but I couldn't care less if there is a new season or not, because if any of the episodes are as bad as this one, it's going to suck a set of gay donkey balls, and I'm not kidding.

From now on, it's Power Puff Girls and Chrono Cross for me.

Captain Bridger

*SOB* Time to Die

Date: 8/5/99
From: ProfJimmy

This is devastateing. I cry. HOW COULD THEY DO This. DEATH To Pekingpah. Such a great show, ended so horribly. Wade, Quinn, Arturo now Remmy. *SOB* Excuse me i must go in a corner and recover.
THE professor

maybe

Date: 8/6/99
From: eem

maybe this is one of those times the writers made different script outcomes so the fans won't know whats really going to happen until the last show actually airs. It has been done that way on other tv shows before.

now i'll say it: FUCK YOU SCIFI!!!!- end

Date: 8/6/99
From: Slidoh

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I shouldn't have picked up the soap

Date: 8/6/99
From: emzee

Ouch, that hurt Sci-Fi. If I had only known how bad we would get screwed, I would have never bent over to pick up that soap!

How about we start season 6 with a dream, any takers???

I got tears in my fro.... :~ (
MZ

This is a worse cliffhanger than TSOP!

Date: 8/6/99
From: Kromagg1

Well what the hell was the fight to get it saved form Fox's cancellation for anyway? This cliffhanger is much worse than 'This
Slide of Paradise'! I mean what the heck was the fight for at all? We always tried to get it picked up after season 1 because they can't leave us with Quinn being shot and a new slider. That worked. Then we campaigned again after season 3. They can't leave 2 sliders possibly home and 2 somewhere else. Now you thought that was a bad cliffhanger... Come to 'The Seer' we've got a smashed beyond repair timer. Remmy split off probably dead and the other three in a dumb world with no real way of getting to him and if they did they might die. I think I would have rather had it end after season 1 or 3 because those were much less of a cliffhanger but this is downright mean to do this and not have the decency to order *one* more episode to end the show. Let the crew know it's the last show so they don't throw a big huge cliffhanger into it. Really, it makes me mad beyond words that I even fought to keep it alive if this is the type of 'end' we get. Well, this begins my severe anti-SFC campaign. They were shown by ratings, the massive letter writing campaign, and by the poll on SFW that Sliders has not run it's course and yet they still do this. I can see absolutely *no* gain on their part by doing this. All I see is loss : Pissed off viewers who will hold a serious grudge, lower ratings, loss of 2nd highest rated program, viewers who feel that SFC doesn't care what they think and that their voice doesn't mean a damn thing to them, they don't get the extra publicity fos Sliders passing 100 eps, being cancelled and renewed 3 times after surviving major loss... etc. All I can see is severe hurt for SFC by this decision. At least show fans they care and don't leave with a grudge by giving us an end. This is wrong... Fox suddenly looks a lot better now. I've got a new enemy. I urge anyone remotely close to San Diego for the ComiCon to keep going to the SFC booth and ask 'where are the Sliders people?'... 'Isn't Sliders higher rated than First Wave?', 'what the hell do you people smoke over at the programming department that makes you so dumb and oblivious to the consequences?'... stuff like that :-) Make them see that people are more interested in Sliders than First Wave and Farscape. *And* make it known that now that Sliders is over you have no reason to watch the network and are pulling it from your cable (if it's extra for some of you). Show them the consequences of their moronic actions. Sorry to go off like that but I can seriously talk forever on something I strongly believe in and this decision is one of the strongest things I oppose...


Kro1

I didn't think it was that bad...

Date: 8/6/99
From: SimonSays

but this pretty much kills off any possibility of a Sliders motion piture:-( (maybe) but on the other hand if another network picked up the show they could dedicate a whole season just to tieing up loose ends, if anyone dares to touch the show anymore.

it was supposed to be...

Date: 8/6/99
From: Kromagg1

a cliffhanger season finale. They were almost certain they were gonna get a pick up so they wrote this cliffhanger to resolve in season 6. Well, we didn't get a season 6 so now we're stuck with a cliffhanger season finale and a series ender.

Kro1

I didn't read this, but YOU ALL DID?!?!?

Date: 8/6/99
From: daveyramone

why would you want to take out the surprise?

EARTHPRIME info is wrong

Date: 8/6/99
From: SpaceTime

I should know. It's my site.

I'll be adding this information to the page when I have time.

SpaceTime

Goodbye sci-fi i will never wacth them..

Date: 8/6/99
From: Maximilli0n

I will never wacth a show on sci-fi again. (except Sliders)

Sounds like a decent episode.

Date: 8/6/99
From: Parajo

Except for the fact that it is the worst ending to one of the greatest shows in television history. I'm sorry, but if they don't do something about cleaning that sh*t up later I will be very pissed off. That is the crappiest ending that I have ever heard of. Words cannot explain it. Like I said though, if it gets resolved and they do it right, it sounds as though it could be a good episode. Only time will tell; and if it tells me the wrong thing then some one will DIE!

Parajo- the reserving his judgement for a later time

sad....

Date: 8/10/99
From: sliderlass

TF-thanks for all the wonderful info and insight to our beloved sliders. I always look for your postings first! And as for this new update-ACKKKKKKKK! Now I'll go and sob quietly into a tub of ice cream.

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