The
Geoff341 lie... examined.
Date: 04/05/2002
From: Geoff341
Okay, dude, you can shut the 7>:-# up now.Yep, this is Blinker speaking. We'll cover 'how' and 'why' in a minute... but rest assured that I'm in no way responsible for any of the harassment this handle has inflicted on the board.
Now, let's start at the beginning.
I've known for quite some time that Geoff341 is a real person and not simply the prank handle of a regular. He's occasionally e-mailed me through my website asking Sliders questions similar to those he initially posed here... in fact, the first few sets of BBoard posts were *simultaneously* sent over e-mail through a working e-mail addy, in his name, at a legitimate cable ISP (nope, not AOL).
So you can imagine my bafflement as these increasingly self-parodying spam attacks under his handle began.
This was Geoff's last e-mail, on March 8 (just as the flood of Geoff impersonators was showing up - http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27566):
1. I've heard something about a sliders movie have you?
2. Is the movie still being produced?
3. Whose going to be in it?
4. Are there going to be any more sliders movies after this first one gets released?After that, he went dead... but the posts continued. Each less believable than the last. They all remained at least marginally credible until March 26, when he posted the infamous "Masturbation":
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27648
Notice anything different about this post? It's a totally distinct style of writing from anything previous. Not only are the run-on sentences absent, but when has Geoff *ever* inserted a single carriage return between two questions?
So that's when it hit me that someone must've guessed the guy's password. I proceeded to do so myself, and sure enough, Geoff had picked an unfortunately obvious one to go with his handle. I sent him e-mail asking if he'd really made those posts, but have yet to hear a word back from him (even though the posts under his handle have certainly proceeded apace).
In the meantime, I left the handle alone and watched the impersonator become increasingly transparent ('So Informant's April Fool's joke was real, right? That was a real article, wasn't it? Was it real?')
But this is where I'm pulling the plug.
The titles on today's posts -- "The Fuss™"... oh, sorry, "The Fuss," and "Quinn (aka harbinger of death itself?)" are not only the most obviously "satirical" to date (you really expect me to believe someone who's demonstrated the writing level Geoff has would use the phrase "harbinger of death itself?") but sound an AWFUL lot like a CERTAIN OTHER KNOWN SPAMMER I WON'T NAME... JUST YET.
In the meantime, the password to this handle has been changed, and mail sent to Geoff apprising him of the new one. We'll see if he ever returns.
So here's my entirely conjectural theory of events:
1) The flood of pseudo-Geoffs around March 8 drives the real one from the board. (Incidentally, none of the impersonators had the same or a similarly guessable password, indicating that the real Geoff was not "schizophrenic" as has been alleged.)
2) Some mysterious, shadowy, unknown poster who apparently loves stirring up trouble, perpetrating hoaxes, and fostering cynicism on the board hacks the password and begins annoying the 7>:-# out of everyone with his 'satire' on Geoff's stupidity.
3) This individual shares the handle with his small but like-minded circle of friends, who have a grand old time convincing one and all that "Geoff" has multiple personalities (i.e. different writing styles). Hmm... maybe the same fellow responsible for such gems as "AssRipper6" and "Scott_Bakula_Da_Man" is involved?
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27522
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/275604) Anti-Geoff paranoia reaches such a fever pitch that when an actual TV producer planning a Sliders-like series visits the board, an infuriated Grizzlor -- Geoff's archenemy -- flames him into never returning.
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27642
As Grizz comments in his apology:
"...this board gets flooded with ridiculous claims and outlandish outright lies people make up just to annoy everyone here."
To the false Geoff... thank you VERY much for contributing to THAT. If the post is indeed legitimate and the show ever makes it to air, I'll be sure to smile contentedly as I recall that you helped SCREW over our chances of getting to speak directly with the creator as fellow fans of "Sliders."
So, does that about add up? Because it sure as hell does to me.
Oh, one last comment:
I believe the person behind the Geoff clone "Mink3" got the handle idea, either consciously or unconsciously, from this short-lived newbie:
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26334/18
And is there anyone here who apparently has that thread bookmarked?
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/26585/4
I dunno, Grizz... maybe your theory about 341 and Twizzler being one "psycho" has some merit.
- Blinker 7:-#
http://slidersweb.net/blinker
Welp...
Date: 04/05/2002
From: SpaceTime
I'm Twizzler (the least guarded secret in the universe), and I'm not Geoff341, so there goes that theory. And clearly, if one of my baboon-brained sycophants had pulled the stunt, I would have heard about it, and I haven't. Lord knows those who live to kiss my ass would have brought this to my attention immediately, since currying favor from SpaceTime generally includes posts that play everyone for a sap. They've learned well, after all.I'm fairly certain though, Blink, that you and I are the only two people here that have that post Twizzler wrote bookmarked. It's easy to figure out why I would (being massively ego-centric, I have everything I ever wrote bookmarked), and it's easy to figure out why you would (having memorized the contents of the BBoard) but why would anyone else even care about that post?
Thanks for insinuating twice today that I'm the one behind all this nonsense. Because, after all, I am a cheat, a charlatan and a liar! [1/5/2326/21056/5]
Cute picture, by the way.
- St
matt@laymeduck.com
http://www.earthprime.com
Wow,
great post Blinker!
Date: 04/06/2002
From: Grizzlor
First of all, that post read like a movie mystery, quite intriguing. And to Spacetime, what is your problem? I've gotten into some arguments here, and so have a lot of other people, but they didn't go under another handle and start CURSING people out like a mad man. Have some decency. I assume that nobody "stole" the Twizzler name so it was you.Second, I DID NOT flame that "show creator" because of my anger with Geoff. Truth is, the whole Masturbation thing was posted by Geoff AFTER that pilot thing was posted. "Geoff" truly did not infuriate until a series of 3 posts, including "my sister" and master-uknowwhat. I got anger with that "producer" because I did and really still do think he was completely bogus! I know you didn't know that Blinker, but that was my reasoning. I really took it as a blatant slap in the face joke. So in reality don't blame Geoff or whoever else is Geoff, or Spacetime, or anybody. If anybody wants to blame ANYBODY, BLAME ME! I take full responsibility for that. He flipped out after one posts. And I apologized to the guy, and if that ain't good enough for him, tough rocks pal.
Third, Blinker, not sure if you knew about this, but Temporal Flux was also getting the same emails from the REAL Geoff for awhile, then they just stopped, I assume. I honestly can't imagine anyone would waste their time so much to find this Geoff's password. Geez, leave him alone. According to the emails, and judging by his first posts, Geoff seemed genuinely interested in the show. I don't think he honestly knew how to use the board, and never read any of the replies, then just stopped. Hopefully he will answer you back.
Hey,
let's turn the tables
Date: 04/06/2002
From: capaqu
a little bit.
Grizzlor, first I must ask, if Blinker's Geoff post is so grand then why did it contain the errors you bring up? The post is flawed, is it not?
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27711/2
By his own admission, this post was made by Blinker:"Okay, dude, you can shut the 7>:-# up now.
Yep, this is Blinker speaking. We'll cover 'how' and 'why' in a minute... but rest assured that I'm in no way responsible for any of the harassment this handle has inflicted on the board."
Trust me, I'm ever so much rested and assured now. How 'bout you?
He then goes on to say
"In the meantime, the password to this handle has been changed, and mail sent to Geoff apprising him of the new one. We'll see if he ever returns."
Uh-HUH! Well, he *did* return. The interesting thing to me is that there were three "imposter" posts immediately preceding the 'I am Blinker' post. Then not too long after that there came four more posts.
But, but, but... if Geoff-whoever is genuine, then how come he is posting the same way again? Hmm... Supposedly Blinker changed the password and told it to Geoff. That means these later posts could be the products of *either one of them*. Notice anything fishy about the similarities between these two posts?:
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27710
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27715Would the *real* Geoff do this? Perhaps. If he was Blinker.
Grizzlor suggests a poll: Who is Geoff? http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27716/1There are several possibilities here:
1) Geoff always was Blinker. The whole sequence of posts have been made to make SpaceTime look bad. The problem here is that SpaceTime needs no help in making himself look bad. He does that just fine all by himself.
2) Geoff is really SpaceTime. This entire exercise has occurred to make Blinker look bad.
3) Geoff is TemporalFlux, or any number of other 'regulars' trying to make SpaceTime look bad. Or perhaps to besmirch Blinker?
4) Geoff is real. *All* of his posts are real. His sole purpose being that of a troll stirring up trouble.
5, etc) Any other ideas?
All that I *do* know about this chain of events is that *I* had nothing to do with it. As I said in a reply a few days ago, I usually only scan this bboard on rare occasions. I read the posts even less rarely. But it's been a slow week on the internet in my usual forums, so I've had a little more time to peruse the scintillating exchanges here. Why anyone would want to be a troll has always confounded me. How anyone could steal a handle and password is something I have no technical knowledge or ability to accomplish, nor would I want to waste my time trying.
But of course, since I've made this reply *I'll* probably be accused.
*sigh*
My
issues with all of this.
Date: 04/07/2002
From: Joey_Starr
BT is no ones friend!!!
This is a hard post for me to make. I have always had nothing but respect for all of the parties involved in what I am getting into here. In the year and change that I have been here, I have tried to be friendly, honest, funny (well I like to think that I don’t need to try too hard), and for the most part neutral. Sure I have had some battles, stuck my foot in my mouth at times, maybe gotten involved without knowing all the details, but my intentions have always been in the right place (I hope).
The funny thing about neutrality is that the more you become friendly with both sides, the harder it becomes to “stay out of it”. A couple of things I have learned about this BBoard are that you cannot base your friends on their allies and enemies. It seems like nobody stays paired as friends for long. And that you have enemies where you do not realize it and that your assumed enemies are sometimes good people that you have misunderstood or misread. And sometimes the people you think are cool by their posts can turn out to be assholes or visa versa. Confused? Good! Now you have a small inkling of my point!
Anyone, who tells you that there are no major rifts in this community, is either not looking very well or is in major denial. Those who claim to ignore the rift with full success are not being honest with themselves. Those who thrive to make everyone “happy” might as well give up because it will NEVER happen.
Hmmm. Where to begin? I’ll begin right where I have unfortunately been placed: the middle! “The Geoff341 lie... examined” has been both a surprising and educational experience. The thing is that I do not understand what it really proves. This is not an attack on Blinker. I happen to like the guy. I just need to understand, or maybe to be understood. Allow me to do the Joey_Starr thing:“I've known for quite some time that Geoff341 is a real person and not simply the prank handle of a regular.”
How can you be so sure?
“He's occasionally e-mailed me through my website asking Sliders questions similar to those he initially posed here... in fact, the first few sets of BBoard posts were *simultaneously* sent over e-mail”
So you really have only know this since 2/23/02. Not too long before the supposed “change”.
“through a working e-mail addy, in his name, at a legitimate cable ISP (nope, not AOL).“
I’m not sure that I understand the AOL comment. Also, you can no longer register a BBoard handle with a web based email account. So you really do not have a choice. Besides, all this really says is that whoever emailed you had an ISP or used an email address mask. I’ve done that to get by mail filters back when I was in college. It’s a lot easier to do than it sounds. Also, you can establish a telnet session with a text based mail system that doesn’t have heavy security and send a message from it using whatever return address you want. I’ve done that before too.
“This was Geoff's last e-mail, on March 8 (just as the flood of Geoff impersonators was showing up - http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27566):”
They may or may not be impersonators. If you follow the theory that Geoff is some innocent Dink then this is probably true, But those that follow the theory that Geoff is an alt-handle or just someone sent here to mess with us, then its probably not true. I think considering what you know about Geoff’s account, that it’s pretty unlikely that he’s an innocent. But the other handles MIGHT be antagonists.
“After that, he went dead... but the posts continued.”
Why not? I’m sure you gave him the same type of answers that he got here. Why continue to do both? Especially if he was a sham to begin with. He’s probably someone looking to harass you.
“Each less believable than the last. They all remained at least marginally credible until March 26, when he posted the infamous "Masturbation":
You know even that same day with the 2 earlier posts he was still like the Geoff “of old” and this sudden “return” shows that he was up to his same crap. He was mocking the post about old scifi shows. He made the same “2003” release date questions, etc. This is after you emailed him back the new password that you have made for him. Guess what? The Geoff that emailed you, is the same guy who, posted, been posting, and still posting. He’s played you my friend.
“http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27648
Notice anything different about this post? It's a totally distinct style of writing from anything previous. Not only are the run-on sentences absent, but when has Geoff *ever* inserted a single carriage return between two questions?“He did so after his return. You know, its hard to decide that the styles are *so* different when it was just two sentences. I mean heck; I could not sound like myself in 2 sentences just on accident. I think most people evolve their posting styles gradually. These changes that Geoff has gone through were gradual. Sliderseth posts a LOT different than he used to but I have no doubt that he is still the same ass munch that I have been harassing all this time. The new posts kind of reflect the same style except of course that the apologies are the “innocent” like Geoff and the next one is the wiseass Geoff. Right after one another and then stupid Geoff again. It’s too closely done to be a coinky you know?
“So that's when it hit me that someone must've guessed the guy's password. I proceeded to do so myself, and sure enough, Geoff had picked an unfortunately obvious one to go with his handle. “
Yes but what you discovered about that password and account really points to someone other than who you accuse later doesn’t it? Someone who is known for being a prankster, and using multiple handles and for spreading crap on the board.
“I sent him e-mail asking if he'd really made those posts, but have yet to hear a word back from him (even though the posts under his handle have certainly proceeded apace).”
Not answering email doesn’t mean you cannot post. He could have had a problem with his email, been away from home but accessible to the internet, ignoring you waiting to see what comes out of it, or lord knows what this guy is up to.
“The titles on today's posts -- "The Fuss™"... oh, sorry, "The Fuss," and "Quinn (aka harbinger of death itself?)" are not only the most obviously "satirical" to date (you really expect me to believe someone who's demonstrated the writing level Geoff has would use the phrase "harbinger of death itself?") but sound an AWFUL lot like a CERTAIN OTHER KNOWN SPAMMER I WON'T NAME... JUST YET.”
You know, the same way you can expect Matt to take the handle over and imitate an idiot till he felt like causing “big trouble”, another person with a lot less intelligence could do the same thing and could have been doing it from the very first Geoff post. As far as I am concerned Geoff is dumb like a fox. In other words, he’s just playing dumb. Like you know how the theory is that he does not know how to read replies to posts or reply to them? Bullshit! His thread named Oleg17(http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27563) made reference to a reply to his first thread(http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/27526) so he really does know how to read replies, and if he can post he can reply! It’s the same action but off of another screen which he has proven to be able to get to. And “The Fuss”? Come on! Isn’t this reaching out just a bit? If I made a thread called, “The Trip” and it was about going to meet a cast member, would you think it was Matt? Even if I did use a “TM”?
“In the meantime, the password to this handle has been changed, and mail sent to Geoff apprising him of the new one. We'll see if he ever returns”
And he has and it still doesn’t prove anything.
“So here's my entirely conjectural theory of events:”
OK
“1) The flood of pseudo-Geoffs around March 8 drives the real one from the board. (Incidentally, none of the impersonators had the same or a similarly guessable password, indicating that the real Geoff was not "schizophrenic" as has been alleged.)”
He wasn’t driven away it seems and its harder to prove what kind of passwords they didn’t use if you didn’t figure out what they did use. Know what I mean? Besides, who said that he couldn’t have used a different password for each?
“2) Some mysterious, shadowy, unknown poster who apparently loves stirring up trouble, perpetrating hoaxes, and fostering cynicism on the board hacks the password and begins annoying the 7>:-# out of everyone with his 'satire' on Geoff's stupidity. “
Possibly, but how can this person have been Matt specifically? If this was such an easy task to do it could have been anybody. You, Me, sliderseth, Grizzlor, anyone.
“This individual shares the handle with his small but like-minded circle of friends, who have a grand old time convincing one and all that "Geoff" has multiple personalities (i.e. different writing styles). Hmm... maybe the same fellow responsible for such gems as "AssRipper6" and "Scott_Bakula_Da_Man" is involved?”
Now, here you may have something. There are a lot of phonies posing to cause trouble. Geoff is sure to be one. Course, you seem to “have it figured out” I wish your opinion on this didn’t seem so biased. You are a smart guy blinker, but even the smartest of us are guilty of thinking of our foes first whenever there is trouble afoot. I had an idea of who Scott Bakula was because of a conceived idea I had of an individual I really didn’t know. I’m glad that when I was proven wrong that the person didn’t have hard feelings about it and that we became friends. I talk to him more than anyone else on this board now. Go figure.
“Anti-Geoff paranoia reaches such a fever pitch that when an actual TV producer planning a Sliders-like series visits the board”
That was never proven.
“an infuriated Grizzlor -- Geoff's archenemy -- flames him into never returning.”
I like Grizzlor but as far as I am concerned it was his own fault that he flamed that guy. Not Geoff’s or a Geoff impersonator. And it seems from his reply to this that he feels that way as well. If the guy WAS legit then maybe he should desensitize a bit because the entertainment industry is not for pantywaists. If one fan discourages him that much then he is in for some suffering ahead.
“So, does that about add up? Because it sure as hell does to me. “
No it doesn’t. That’s why I posted this, things are less clear then before you posted this Blinker. I hope this doesn’t seem like my starting in on you or taking sides but I think that maybe fingers are getting pointed a little too early. Some of the points you made are really just things that were looked at a little too deeply. You know, enough to find things in them that aren’t really valid. I mean how many people post exactly the same way every time? Isn’t this post of mine different from what you are used to from me? Did someone take my handle? Maybe it was that fool StupidSlider, or sliderseth. No wait, SS types in all caps, and sliderseth always has sentences that have parenthesis in the wrong spots. Hmmm! Maybe it was fatcat305? But he/she meows every post, so can’t be, or could it?
“I dunno, Grizz... maybe your theory about 341 and Twizzler being one "psycho" has some merit”
You know, your own theories about writing styles contradict this?
Well, I’m sure I’m in for a lot of flaming and damnation for this. But I had to say something. I couldn’t be the honest person that I am if I didn’t. And damn it, I have enough reason not to sleep at night! 
JS
Oh yeah, I still haven’t decided how I feel yet about the 2 guys(who are friends) who barely say hi to me when coming across me on the net are suddenly very chatty with me after all this came about. Maybe there was an agenda, or maybe my opinion has been biased? Sounds familiar. You tell me.
Joey.
Date: 04/07/2002
From: Yeontoo
Dear Mr. Starr :)
I am not an expert on alt-handles and weirdos, and I do think the answer is here.
However. It IS possible to not believe everything you read, and to not take sides. Not easy, but not undoable.
Does this mean if I ring you up next time I see you on AIM, You do ...not? want to be contacted?
Blessings
Yeontoops. I have not read 99.9% of the Geof314 stuff on purpose. Makes it easier to be blissfully happy.
Grizz,
re: Twizzler
Date: 04/07/2002
From: SpaceTime
Grizz, you wrote:"Spacetime, what is your problem? I've gotten into some arguments here, and so have a lot of other people, but they didn't go under another handle and start CURSING people out like a mad man. Have some decency. I assume that nobody 'stole' the Twizzler name so it was you."
You're right, nobody's "stolen" my handle. I wrote everything you read in that topic from Raleigh. Apparently, even though I've been Twizzler since 1999, there's this avenue of confusion regarding this.
Far be it from me to have a secondary handle. Lord knows Blinker, Tigs, RMScream, darkslider, Coolslider, HurriKain, dellyone, Eustislider, SL4ever, etc., don't (please). Seriously, Twizzler's been around for a long time. I've noted on several occasions that we are the same person. Twizzler is for when ludicrous posts demand ludicrous answers. Allow me to demonstrate:
Hey Ladies! [Joey Starr]
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/25847HEY BIRDBRAIN
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/25336/14BLAH BLAH BLAH [purged]
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/25901Charmed and Buffy... [buffyboy]
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/11845GODDAMN
http://slidersweb.net/eustislider/twizzler/goddamn.htmYou are all ridiculous
http://slidersweb.net/eustislider/twizzler/you_are_all_ridiculous.htmTwizzler v. SL4ever
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2326/26267There's a ton more, but with the exception of the last two links Twizzler has never said anything even remotely worth scrutinization. The irritating capitalization of all, the horrid spelling errors, the absolute ridiculousness of it is a parody of stupid trolls. Who doesn't get this?
I wasn't initiating a fight or even attempting to do anything other than reply to Raleigh's ridiculousness with my own. I didn't switch from SpaceTime to Twizzler and fight you. The post was addressed to *Twizzler.* Ergo, *Twizzler* replied in his usual manic stupidity.
But I guess I have to reveal common knowledge over and over again.
I am Twizzler. I have always used the handle. Like I said, this is hardly a secret.
Equally shocking, I have been:
- Execrable (Elite War and one or two other posts)
- PopTart54321 (a series of posts lampooning Timer54321)
- SpatialFlux (one post)Now all the mystery is out. Neat.
One last thing: you say the following -
"They didn't go under another handle and start CURSING people out like a mad man. Have some decency."
Blinker, in this very topic, not only went under another handle, he hijacked it. And then he had the "decency" to all but point the finger at me and/or one of my friends as being those responsible for Geoff341. I can honestly say I've never hacked someone's password, guessing or otherwise.
Yet I'm the mad man for having a well-established alter-ego who babbles like a complete moron.
Peace,
ST
Dearest
Yeontoo. :)
Date: 04/07/2002
From: Joey_Starr
"Dear Mr. Starr :) "You flatter me.
"I am not an expert on alt-handles and weirdos,"
That's because you have better things to do with your time than get in the middle of petty rivalry. A lesson I usually don't need learning but I was weakened by the bonds of friendship.
"and I do think the answer is here. "
I think so too.
"However. It IS possible to not believe everything you read, and to not take sides. Not easy, but not undoable."
I'm sure. I have done so until now, with a minor exception. I was just saying that it is hard to avoid the rift and that even if you do not join in arms that its impossible not to feel favoritism to a side from time to time. Staying out of it is VERY doable. Not forming an opinion of who's right or wrong? Not human.
"Does this mean if I ring you up next time I see you on AIM, You do ...not? want to be contacted? "
My dear Yeontoo, you are ALWAYS welcome to chat with me. Since my early days in this board, you have shown me nothing but kindness and good hospitality. I had very specfic people in mind on my last comments. I'm not even sure if they warrant anything, but I can't help but to wonder if they were suddenly friendlier than usual because they needed something. The one probably not, the other could be just a coincedence. That's why I said I haven't decided. I guess I have to see what happens.
"ps. I have not read 99.9% of the Geof314 stuff on purpose. Makes it easier to be blissfully happy. "I used to read the Geoff posts mostly to watch Grizz in action. He is quite entertaining, you know? A good kid too! I do believe that you have a good formula for bliss. I will have to bare it in mind for future reference.
Thanks for caring enough to reply Y. It was a much appreciated alternative to the kind of reply I expected.
JS
An
opposing viewpoint...
Date: 04/08/2002
From: RMScream
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
So, we have another troll. Not the first, and certainly not the last. However, Geoff has arguably been one of the most annoying ones, at least since I've been around, which is nearing two years. Instead of just ignoring the troll, which would cause it to go away(like all of them eventually do), Blinker decides to "call out" the "evil side" of the board and claims that it was them, that they guessed the innocent Geoff's password and proceeded to wreak havoc. Then, Blinker, being the hero and all around good guy that he is, guessed this same password, and posted the above message, calling out the evil-doers and saving the day.To quote Vinny Gambini from the great movie "My Cousin Vinny," "Everything that guy said is bullshit." Just to set the record straight, I did not post as Geoff. I have much better things to do with my time than post assinine questions about a cancelled sci-fi show to a bulletin board. And if I wanted to be a troll, I would definitely do it in a way to avoid suspision coming my way. My friends on the board did not post as Geoff, either. Honestly, who has time to sit at their computer and guess the password of someone who made a post or two, even if it were an "easy" word, as Blinker claims? If one wanted to be a troll, certainly it would be a lot easier to just create an entirely new handle to mess around with. But let's just say that what Blinker said did happen. Someone guessed the innocent poster's password. Wouldn't they be inclined to change the old password, so the original holder couldn't post under it anymore? So they could continue the charade for as long as possible? I'd think so, but aparantly Blinker disagrees with that notion.
After shutting down those possibilities, I have came up with a few that are a bit more feasable:
1)Geoff has been the same Geoff from the very beginning, annoying everyone, until the post Blinker made from his screen name. Blinker guessed this password, because it seems that Blinker has nothing better to do than sit at his computer and guess passwords of silly posters, which is sad, but that's another topic for another time. Anyway, Blinker posts under Geoff's name, accusing SpaceTime and all of his "minions," in order to sullie the name of the EVIL SIDE.
2) Blinker created the Geoff name after recieving the e-mail he claims to have recieved. He has posted as Geoff from the beginning of Geoff's tenure here. Blinker has been the annoying troll. He did this for a reason, though, to blame ST and his evil henchmen to make the "Good Side" look better in the eyes of the b-board. We know from previous statements that he and his friends care immensely about what people at an online message board think of them. Bottom line, though, is that Blinker was the troll all along. Doesn't matter what the reason behind it was, he was still the troll, thus making him no better than any other troll which has graced us with their presence.
What do you think? These are certainly a little more believable than the utter nonsense Blinker posted in the so-called "Geoff341 lie...examined." If you have any more possible situations, please feel free to add to the list.
-Ryan
Ok,
ok, ok
Date: 04/08/2002
From: Grizzlor
Number one, I did not reply to Geoff simply to be angry and to chew him out. I did it to be humorous, even satirical. I think Joey and I and Seth and others had fun with it. But basically there is nothing more for me to be joking with this "Geoff". He has become both pointless and even vulgar, and it's not funny anymore. As for who what or when Geoff is, who cares. it doesn't matter.As for SpaceTime, I don't care what other handles he uses, I merely was talking about him just flat cursing people out with every other sentence. If he wants to do that fine, but then don't try to act like you want to be friendly with everybody here if you're cursing them out for nothing. I was just suggesting he'd be a little nicer!
Now, I admit I blasted that "show creator" pretty good, and if he is indeed a real deal, then I feel really bad about it. But if as I really think he is not for real, then I feel fine about it. But also remember I didn't curse him out repeatedly.
:)
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and Tell ---------> McCarthyism!
Date: 04/08/2002
From: darkslider
Blinker,with all due respect...I think you may have been smoking one too many maple leaves up there in pseudo-France.
You TOOK the time to 'test' your hypothesis of the handle's 'theft' and found the password right away, leading to all sorts of conspiracy theories, questions and the like?
No offense, but even if this IS true, another more pertinent question arises. One that, I am sure I am not alone in asking, that can be summated as...who the hell cares?
It's Geoff341. It's not like someone stole TFs, Brand_S', or SpaceTime's handle, spewing nonsensical and defamatory statements all over the bboard. It's not like ANYTHING OF IMPORT HAS ARISEN BECAUSE OF THIS.
It's not as if the 'trouble' started here did anything other than irritate the select few here who ACTUALLY CARED ENOUGH TO READ THE POST and those that are documenting their 'hidden enemy's' shenanigans, and secretly plotting a counter-procedure to doctor the ails that have been assailed on this precious 'home' we call a bboard.
It's Geoff. It's another poster's mask here, left outside and played with by another. It's not the raping of a character, a destruction of a new person's place here, or even an "unforgivable act" that will lead to the collective destruction of the bboard.
However, it does lead to some interesting questions other than the worth of your obvious 'uncovering' of a 'truth' that no one could give a damn about. No, these questions have little to do with geoff's psychiatric troubles or SpaceTime's hidden army of darkness that is poised to strike and rip this bboard asunder with an imaginary signal.No, such questions that are posed are...
What is the point of this examination? What end are you trying to reach here, with all of this useless banter about psychos and hidden agendas?
Are there filthy red communists at every turn here, blinker, attempting a revolution of mass destruction?
Sure seems like it, what with the HORDES of imposters and 'evil groups' attempting to do...god knows what, other than irritate the masses into oblivion?
Tell me, what TROUBLE comes about from a post on 'Masturbation' other than sheer annoyance at someone's failure to be creative and humorous at the same time?
Who gives a damn if Geoff's name was stolen, and he has failed to return your summons to refute the assumptions you have made?
Shit, I have been cut off from you after asking a myriad of important questions regarding many a thing here, only to see you six months or so later, without any word as to what the hell happened.
Should I attempt to hack into your files as a way to 'protect' you? And once my anal raping of your privacy is complete, reach far fetched conclusions about what the very act of my invasion means, other than a blatant disregard of another persons wishes? Should I then announce that I have uncovered a coup in progress, lambaste Temporalflux, announcing his allegiance to the garter wearing nazi clan that controls a whopping THREE people on this bboard?
I think not.
Because you, like most people here in full control of their faculties would announce that the only thing I have uncovered is my own INSANITY AND LOSS OF CONNECTION TO REALITY.
All will tell me that I am INSANE, they do not care, and that I need to MIND MY OWN BUSINESS. Because that is the LOGICAL SUMMATION most of us make.
Thus, I am inclined to reach ANOTHER conclusion, far more realistic...
The conclusion is based in the examination of cappy's assumption #1..
The assumption that you are Geoff341 and have been all along. For, if we base the guilt of Geoff's theft here on those in possession of more than one handle, Callie21V, there's more than a few who need get in line for sentencing of said crime as well.
However, I will not indulge in the obvious conclusion's meaning, as the amount of evidence is as lacking as that of your accusation against SpaceTime, simply because he is Twizzler.
The simple truth here is that you, like most people looking for Jimmy Hoffa, the Fountain of Youth, or women in trailer parks who are under 500lbs, will never find what you seek. Because such things do not exist. To venture a guess at the guilty party (if said party does not lie within the realm of those who have ADMITTED to posting under Geoff's handle, namely Geoff and YOU) is not only ludicrous, but absurd as well. I will not even begin to give you a list of people here who are MORE LIKELY than Space and his 'kin' to conduct such a useless experiment in annoyance of the masses.
I WILL, however remind you Blinker, that your parody of SpaceTime's posts are a sure fire way to shoot yourself in the foot if you seek to increase the validity of your accusation here, due to its obvious attempt at directing the thought process of the reader. Such a fallacy is not only unbecoming, but warranting of a public scrutinization of your own priorities and issues in the face of these 'objective' examinations you hold here in the name of posterity.
Be sure to watch your tongue before speaking on things of which you do not know, for there are many here who grow tired of these blatant attempts at a defamation of things you seem to possess little understanding of.
Also, in the future, please thoroughly check the facts before making such outlandish statements, and stop wasting our time here with such dribble until you can adequately support your ideas.
-darkslider
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