Date: 4/24/99
From: Daniel_2

You don't know me but Temporal Flux and I go way back to the old TV Guide Sliders message board. We both used to hound The Executive and make his life a living hell by posting under more than one handle!!! My regular alias for a time was "The Critic". It is because of us that the message board was ruined. Well don't worry everybody, I'm not here to destroy this board. I know this place will remain standing because you seem to be a strong group and your messages keep things moving along nicely!

But after just reading through so many messages of the feud between Temp. Flux and Exec and the evidence of T.F. being a liar, a thief, and an all-around pain the butt I've had a change of heart. Not that I want to be Exec's friend but I'll leave him alone, at least until he pisses me off again by mentioning me. Anyway here is something from 1997 that I want to share with you all. It's something that Exec mentioned during the feud in one of his posts. Maybe I should have made this a 2 parter because it is LOOOONG! Check it out!!!




Closing Comments

From: (TemporalFlux)
Date: 6 Nov 1997 08:52:27

Syrup: Did you not claim to be 10 minutes where you thought I lived and wanted to settle this "man to man"? You are not better and those words that you said can be found in the very post Deviate replied.

Everyone here knows that I am not Deviate or SpaceTime...you are making a fool of yourself. Deviate was using sarcasm in his statement which is obvious to everyone...especially Executive who has known him longer than I.

And despite hardly anyone carrying on this, you have deemed
to make several posts about the subject (two today)...you are the monster here but apparently that is what this forum (with a few exceptions) want. Well, they can have you...if they want someone to be their "friend" who they know for a fact will lie to them without flinching....who will use every opportunity to violently attempt to degrade another person's character by calling them such things as a rapist or child molestor....who will turn on them in an instant, then let them rot with you.

The forum:

In my time on the forum I have been helpful and kind to many people but that is not returned to me but by Deviate.The fact alone that you say you were responsible for saving Sliders since your letter from USA said the fans saved it is a direct cut at this forum. You say that they did nothing but whine. Do you hear that crestgirl? You must be lying according to syrup because Torme would never call someone who just whined about things on the internet. Prefect's 1200 hits on his save sliders mean nothing either. All the people we gave addresses to, the comic shops that abbadon distributed over 3000
fliers to...they all mean nothing. Syrup and his club saved the show with the help of "some other fans" according to him.

I will be quite honest....all of you claim to be wanting peace. That surely did occur didn't it? Syrup will never stop ranting about this and neither will Executive... plus you say you didn't want to choose sides. Well, I guess that doesn't apply to people like WA, Exec., Flashbiker etc. By staying silent you have voiced which side you want to be on...you admit that you know syrup lied to you, but by not choosing sides you want him to stay. So, you would rather have a liar amoung you. Personally, I have never even seen people treat their dogs this way. Shannen, if crestgirl was accused of lying would you just ignore it and go on? That's what you were going to do with me if I had not talked with you. I have seen you defend each other before, when Deviate got into a "discussion" with the JODsers...that thread went on 70 posts and you didn't mind fighting.
I guess you say that is a different "kind" of friendship.

Well, some of you may be happy by this and some of you may not, but this is my final post. I no longer see the reason that I should stay in a place where lying is rewarded and the degredation of people who you call your "friends" is discarded in the name of a peace you will never have and you know that you will never have. And don't think that I don't know what this roots back to either. I am not stupid.
Shannen agreed with me until syrup mentioned his supposed "connection" with Jerry. She even commented in her fast acceptance of his "apology" that she had forgotten his connection until he mentioned it. From that point on she was completely for him...if I had not said something then she would have never commented on the fact of syrup calling me a liar. It was her attempt to "patch" things between us. If you don't believe this then look under syrup's responses post and look for replies Shannen gave to Syrup in the outline. Notice that her reply is after she agreed with me in my post about ignoring the problem and that syrup was immature. Why else would someone change their tune so fast and stand behind a person they admit to be a liar? Shannen, if you ever think this man is going to help you with anything that will not gain him something in return then you are blinded by irrationality.

As for the rest of you who decided to "not choose sides" but watch others do so... I don't know why you did what you did. Maybe you don't have a mind of your own, maybe you can only follow what Shannen does...or maybe you are blinded by your own self righteousness attitude for "peace" that you can't see you are destroying your "friends" for something you will never attain. Regardless, you don't care. And don't tell me things like you wanted the fighting to stop. Remember that Deviate thread I mentioned earlier? I know you will fight for each other but not for me...
and if that is the case, even in the most severe circumstance where my very credibility is on the line and you know the truth...then I am no friend of yours and I never have been. I was the one who thought I had friends...none of you ever cared.

So, I leave you now with your "peace". I want you to remember something though. There was a parable once about the serpent and the turtle. The turtle tried so hard to be friendly to everyone that he agreed to give the snake a ride across the lake. Half way across the snake bit the turtle...and as the turtle sank he asked "Why?"
"It is my nature" replied the snake.....you know the true nature of syrup and Executive. You have all commented on it in the past and you have seen it. Remember that when they bite you...

If any of you have a shred of decency left in your soul....you will at least put down syrup's claim towards Deviate. All of you know the truth...he is his own man and so is SpaceTime. I have always only been TemporalFlux and that is all I will ever be.
TemporalFlux is dead....and it was not the liars and the monsters that destroyed him, but it was his "friends". His only vulernability...

Tf
temporalflux@hotmail.com

And this is funny why?

Date: 4/24/99
From: Slider_Sarah

Because I couldn't really see it. And I remember the fact that someone (I don't remember who) said that Temporal Flux had made a goodbye post and then come back some time later. And I don't
think it was in a nice way. It can be incredibly difficult to stay away from a board if you try. I was once forced to (it was either that or never go on again) and I found it trying. Other people have posted their goodbyes and then found that they couldn't stay away. Maybe you know that, maybe you don't. Could you just explain to me why it was funny? I wasn't there and I missed most of the argument this time because of time differences.

Sarah.

P.S. I don't think I've come across any evidence strong enough for me to believe that TF is a liar or a thief (website I believe it was referring to) and he's never been a pain in the butt to me. In fatc he's been quite helpful.

I remember you...you were a pain not TF

Date: 4/24/99
From: VortexBabe

I think you have got your info mixed up. You cause trouble at all of the boards without any help. Nice try....but get a life.

Why it's funny

Date: 4/24/99
From: Daniel_2

Temp. Flux has provided much good info on Sliders but.....because of his bad attitude and need to fight he causes trouble everywhere he goes, and since I decided to come back to this board I am going to prove what a fake he really is. He doesn't lie about Sliders, but what people say. In case T.F. is wondering, I picked my new handle Daniel_2 in honor of him since his real name is Daniel.

Yes...

Date: 4/24/99
From: TemporalFlux

Amazing that you would choose the handle "Daniel_2"...that was danbagel's only hang up was using that name over and over. It's also amazing you would have past knowledge of MCA...the time and determination to research it that far back...and that doesn't even cover the fact that several times at the TV Guide you commented on how you had another handle at MCA which was "nice" to Exec. Gee...a whole lot of coincidence to swallow...danbagel "leaves" and this pops up. And for the record...I did not use mutliple handles. Apparently you did (as evidenced here by you taking on yet another handle).

As for what you cited...here's the full story. Syrup went on a rampage at the board attacking the girls for what he believed to be illict behaviour at a Jerry O'Connell chat (i.e. they were acting like any Jerry O'Connell female fan I've ever seen...no different and nothing wrong). Near the end of it, I stepped in...that's when the girls he was attacking (using profanity, etc.) turned full circle and began going out of their way to be syrup's friend while leaving me to the his flame from my one comment. This progressed...and syrup e-mailed me talking about how stupid the girls were for buying his apology...he called one a stuck up b**** and didn't speak favorably of the others...but he was still sugary sweet at the board. So, I posted his e-mail...mainly because I didn't want my so called friends to be duped...they turned on me again for doing so, saying I had no right. That's when I left.

The board then degenerated into total hell for a month...syrup continued his behaviour on everyone using profanity and multiple nonsense posts. After receiving several e-mails asking for me to return (and some information that syrup had tried to impersonate me using a yahoo e-mail account), I returned...threatened to sue him, and he left with his tail between his legs only to return much later when he finally admitted he did impersonate me. And I guess you can assume who syrup's biggest cheerleader was during all of this (and even after syrup admitted to attempting the e-mail impersonation)? I'll give you a hint...it begins with an E.

That's the facts...you can research it all you like (since a rough starting date has been given).

Tf
temporalflux@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/8120

hey, TF...

Date: 4/24/99
From: _Ping_

Hi, Just want to say im on your side.

You have always been nice to me.

Ping aka ThunderGirl aka PPKATG (sg1 realms) aka Sliderworld(mca boards) aka WarpedBrain (only for 2 posts on this board) aka Bubbles (chat rooms only)

Anyone want to start a contest? Lets see who has the most handles!!!

I still don't find it funny (end)

Date: 4/24/99
From: Slider_Sarah

END! I said END! Doh!, stupid keys!

You are a liar, Daniel_2

Date: 4/27/99
From: The_Cynic

Whomever you may be, *I* know you are lying because *I* am
"the Critic" who posted on the old TV GUIDE board. I've finally got around to getting here, but since someone else is using the handle of Critic and The_Critic, I've opted for a new version of my handle.
If you see this TF, I just want you to know I'm still on your side
and I am NOT Daniel_2.

Nice try Executive

Date: 6/28/99
From: The_Cynic

Well, for any who chance upon this, the proof is in that Executive
is Daniel_2. He has a vendetta against me for humiliating him and exposing his lies on the
old FOX board. What reason would I have to make a new handle, attack TF whom I
get along with and always have, admit to who I am, then claim I was impersonated?
Only in Ex-Lax's twisted mind could this make any sense. Funny how the content
of the post from MCA is the exact same post Executive constantly harps on about being
funny and makin TF look bad. Lo and behold, Daniel_2 uses this post.
See THE ULTIMATE ANTI-EXECUTIVE POST to see links which further implicate
Executive, as many of us have seen the messages he sent to Danbagel
admitting to impersonating me at : http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/8083
We're not accepting your lies anymore Ex-Lax.

Original URL http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/5834
Nominated by Blinker