The Great Explanation

Date: 8/23/99
From: mrbrown1602

SciFi simply used the diehard Sliders fans. They wanted em all to come over to the scifi channel and watch crap like First Wave (which offends me, cause I am a fan of the prophocies of Nostradamus). Sci-Fi wanted to cancel the show as soon as they got the chance, even though it was the highest rated show on the network in the 4th season. Season 3 sucked, but hey if you look at it, there were a couple of good episodes... such as DoubleCross, The Guardian, The Exodus, Slide like an Egyptian. And then if you look at it more, the only reason season 3 sucked so much is because they hired writers that never did the slighest bit of Sci-Fi writing in their lifetime. They just ripped everything off of the summer blockbusters (This Slide of Paradise = The Island of Dr. Monrau, Slither = Anaconda, Stroker = Dracula, Breeder = Alien).
Season 4 was good, except for the addition of Jerry O'Connell's brother who isn't exactly the greatest actor in the world. He was like a male version of Kari Wuhrur.

And if you saw the newest season 5 episode, Easy Slider, you would've noticed that this episode was directed by David Peckinpah. One of the worst episodes of Sliders yet. Why? Because it has too much sexual related content. SLIDERS AIN'T ABOUT SEX. Now lets look at David Peckinpah's record, shall we ?

Director: Silk Stalkings
hmmm, this show was one of the absolute WORST shows ever. I think that Red Shoe Diaries was even better!

And what experience did peckinpah have to give him the grand right of "Executive Consultant" ??? Well lets see...
he was an executive producer for season 3..
and wrote *ONE* episode.

If Robert K. Weiss and Tracy Torme were to come back right now, and finish up the show at episode 100 (only 12 episodes after this season), it could be great again for one last time. But as long as David Peckinpah is allowed to go on, this shall not happen. As long as writers that have never written scifi keep writing for sliders, this ain't gonna happen. As long as Bill Dial is an executive producer, this ain't gonna happen. What'd he do anyways? A very bad comedy that is played in reruns on Nick-At-Nite now! COMEDY DOESN'T EQUAL SCIENCE FICTION.

And that my friends... is the point.

Your "explanation" is awful

Date: 8/24/99
From: SpaceTime

Let's dissect your statements about "Easy Slider" first. Granted, it was pretty bad. I'd place it as the worst episode of the new season, but that's beside the point right now. I want to address something that people simply cannot seem to comprehend here, and that's the role of director.

I like how, simply because David Peckinpah DIRECTED "ES," that automatically taints the script, story, characterization. Yes, the director allows for lighting, movement to conform to his wishes. But he still shoots whatever script he's given, because, you see, while Peck may be consultant, he still has to apply for the director position regardless. Granted, he'll most likely get the job, but even then he doesn't choose what episode he gets to direct. That is appointed by production. You think Peckinpah saw the script for "ES" and said, "Hey, this is mindless, S3 drivel! I better get my stamp on it post haste!"?! Nope. He got a job directing X episodes of S5, and "ES" happened to be one of them.

Now, to quote you:

> And then if you look at it more,
> the only reason season 3 sucked so much is because
> they hired writers that never did the slighest bit
> of Sci-Fi writing in their lifetime. They just ripped
> everything off of the summer blockbusters (This Slide
> of Paradise = The Island of Dr. Monrau, Slither =
> Anaconda, Stroker = Dracula, Breeder = Alien).

Actually, some of the writers on S3 wrote for the previous two seasons, examples of which include Nan Hagen (PTSS, Dead Man Sliding) and Scott Smith Miller (Greatfellas, Eggheads). FOX *MANDATED* the Chinese-food theater we saw, all right? And while the result is awful, don't drive the point home. Only an idiot wouldn't recognize the similarities between some of the ripoffs. But Breeder ripped off SPECIES, not ALIEN. Get your facts straight, chum-*pah*

Oh yeah, "Stroker"? Sure that didn't borrow from "Basic Instinct"? And since the Sliders episode STOKER went out of its way to say that it didn't derive anything from "Dracula," how can you make such aspersions.

> And what experience did peckinpah have to give him
> the grand right of "Executive Consultant" ??? Well
> lets see... he was an executive producer for season 3..
> and wrote *ONE* episode.

David Peckinpah was Executive Producer for Seasons 3 and 4, and since the title of Executive Consultant is a title, a formality, I really don't think it matters. Plus, he's had plenty of experience outside of Sliders... Silk Stalkings, for all it's cheasy sexiness, was USA's highest-rated show and cable's top-rated show for a LONG time.

And Peck is credited for two S3 episodes: Dinoslide and Murder Most Foul. But you knew that, right?

Lastly:

> If Robert K. Weiss and Tracy Torme were to come
> back right now, and finish up the show at episode
> 100 (only 12 episodes after this season), it could be
> great again for one last time. But as long as David
> Peckinpah is allowed to go on, this shall not happen.
> As long as writers that have never written scifi keep
> writing for sliders, this ain't gonna happen. As long as
> Bill Dial is an executive producer, this ain't gonna happen.
> What'd he do anyways? A very bad comedy that is played
> in reruns on Nick-At-Nite now! COMEDY DOESN'T EQUAL
> SCIENCE FICTION.

Bob Weiss wrote part of one episode: the pilot. Tracy wrote 7. Get over it. They aren't coming back. There is no season six. David Peckinpah would not come back if there was one. And your comedy barb shows how little you know the true roots of the show. Sliders is supposed to be comedic, with satire and black humor rolled into one. Season 3 lost that charm, and people like Bill Dial and Chris Black help add a little humor to a show that all to often needs it.

> And that my friends... is the point.

Your point is lost on those with heads on their shoulders. But way to reach for everyone else...

SpaceTime

Don't listen to SpaceTime...

Date: 8/24/99
From: buffyboy

He just has an attitude problem. I don't know why. He's pissy to everyone. But you bring some points that are hot topics of discussion around here. Its nice to see a newbie who isn't saying "Sliders Sucks".
BB=:~)

Ah yes, Buffyboy

Date: 8/24/99
From: SpaceTime

Yes, don't listen to me. Such egalitarianism, Buffyboy. Hmmm... I thought we wanted to promote discussion, debate here? I guess not!

But latch on to the new guy that makes wild accusations and uninformed opinions! Don't listen to me! Back a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about. Have fun, Buffyboy.

SpaceTime

........

Date: 8/24/99
From: mrbrown1602

I'm not exactly a newbie. =)
I've been watching Sliders since it first premiered in 1995, (correct right? I have no sense of time) and I've only missed two episodes because of after school activities and a VCR that can't record worth the jack. (those two being both parts of The Exodus)

I prefer NOT to post in the discussions because of people like SpaceTime. People whos ignorance blinds them.

Why was Silk Stalkings USA's highest rated show ? There is a simple, logical explanation for this...

S-E-X.

Men who are too cheap to get the Playboy channel watch those crap shows.

BTW, some people make a FEW mistakes. LIVE WITH IT, SPACETIME. You are not god, and we do not bow to you. If a fucking person makes a fucking mistake, you kindly fucking correct them, not yell and scream at em because you have some fucking problem.

Just because you own a domain, specifically Earthprime.com - doesn't mean your special. I own a fucking domain too - mrbrown.net. Does that make me fucking special ? HELL NO.

Now get a fucking hold of yourself and think about what you are going to fucking say before you fucking type it in and hit "submit".

--
Mr. Brown
http://www.mrbrown.net/

and btw, SpaceTime

Date: 8/24/99
From: mrbrown1602

egalitarianism???
Just because you have a big vocabulary doesn't mean that you're smart. One of the dumbest people I've ever met knew words that you probably never knew existed.

now, do what I told you in the previous message, fool.

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