Date: 01/29/2000
From: TemporalFlux

I haven't been able to view the full episode yet...just the last fifteen minutes. But during that, something clicked with me.

Geiger talks about how he needed someone with a similar quantum frequency (signature) to his own in order to merge. No one else was compatible....and *that's* why he hired Mallory in the first place.

Now, for that to be the only reason he hired Mallory...wouldn't that mean that no one else on "Unstuck Man" world had a quantum frequency similar to Geiger? After all...if they did, couldn't Geiger have just used anyone already at the lab?

What I'm getting at is...quantum frequencies (signatures) are the marker of your home dimension. Now it is assumed that Geiger was not originally from "Unstuck Man" earth (given the way he talked about the extended length of his travels as Unstuck in "Applied Physics"...a story that took place not long after "Unstuck Man" which doesn't match the length of time he was conveying). "Unstuck Man" earth is just where he was able to anchor himself and "set up shop" so to speak...to find a "cure".

Now if Geiger was not from "Unstuck Man" earth...then he wouldn't have a quantum frequency (signature) the same as anyone in that dimension...only people from his own dimension would. Enter Mallory...someone who *does* have Geiger's frequency.

During all this time, we have never seen Geiger be around or mention Kromaggs. What if Geiger was a human from Kromagg Prime originally? No one's ever asked him that...right? That world had the advance science and knowledge to pull off things in the area Geiger has tried. I put that out to say this...if Geiger is from Kromagg Prime, then that would mean Mallory is too. Which would show Mallory as one of the *real* lost Malloy sons from Kromagg Prime...the real Quinn of the abandoned brothers. And that would show that *our* Quinn was not one of the missing brothers...and explain why Mallory looks different (since the Kromagg Prime mom is a different woman proven by the names).

Anyway, there's nothing really conclusive in there...just some food for thought. Thought it was an interesting possible clue...it may not have been placed intentionally (and I seriously doubt it was), but it could easily be built upon by another writer down the line.

Tf
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Very interesting food for thought <end>

Date: 01/29/2000
From: Mallory95

Quite a bit could come of that...

But...

Date: 01/29/2000
From: JorgeCis

If Mallory were really one of the lost Kromagg Prime brothers, then Mrs. Mallory from "Genesis" would not have given Quinn the microdot. They look nothing alike. She would have given it to someone that looks like Mallory.

Of course, this can hold true in other ways. Quinn and Colin weren't the only ones to be sent off to be raised in another world, as seen in "Revelations." Maybe Mallory falls under the same boat.

You know, it's amazing how much of a difference Quinn Mallory made throughout the multiverse. Merging, being raised on another world, inventing sliding, making the Kromaggs a formidable enemy by giving them the equation...he's been busy, hasn't he?

Jorge

Yeah...

Date: 01/29/2000
From: TemporalFlux

But the only thing is...Mrs. Mallory's actions in "Genesis" have always been viewed as suspicious. And the fact that the Kromaggs were proven to have watched the whole thing in "Genesis" (the general comments on it in the same episode) and *planned* for Quinn to get the microdot (as later seen in "Slidecage") show that is was a Kromagg trick on some level.

What I'm saying is...whoever said that Mrs. Mallory was really the lost Quinn's adoptive mother? After all, the Kromaggs used a double of Rembrandt's father already to try to further their ends...using a double of Quinn's Mom bent to their will wouldn't be a stretch. It could very easily come down to a case of mistaken identity due to the Kromaggs hearing "Quinn Mallory" and remembering the one they held in "Invasion". After all, if the real adoptive mom of the lost Quinn had died before being fully mindprobed...they may have no idea what the guy looked like and just assume it's the same (since practically all doubles look the same).

Of course, "The Seer" comes to mind with Mrs. Mallory running around acting like that's her son...but does anyone really think these doubles would willingly cooperate? She was likely brainwashed and programmed just like Remmy was (his program kicked in during "Slidecage"). If that program is still active (and it would be...why would the Maggs care to take time to "fix" her)...then that Mrs. Mallory would honestly still believe that was her son.

Just some more thoughts...all of it could very easily be pieced together with what we've been given.

Tf
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here I go

Date: 01/29/2000
From: slider409

Going to watch Eye of the Storm for the first time now. Wish me luck, lol.

Interesting, but...

Date: 01/29/2000
From: humaggs

If Mallory was the Quinn from Kromagg Prime then why was he on The Unstuck Man Earth? Shoudn't he have been on Genesis Earth, because that is where the parents from K.P. left the Quinn from K.P.

We also know he didn't slide to The Unstuck Man Earth (unless he was to young to remember) because he was asking Remmy what was that, a wormhole? And stuff like that on the begining of The Unstuck Man.

So, do you know of a reason why he could have been on The Unstuck Man Earth?
Humaggs

Well...

Date: 01/29/2000
From: TemporalFlux

Well...things could be spun this way - the Kromagg Mallorys never left microdots. That could be one of the clinchers revealing the Kromagg trick. The story could have had the Maggs figuring a way to bypass the Slidecage on their own...but unable to use it (since they would be beaten back as soon as they went through). They devised the dots, placed in the information and the story for our Quinn based on a fact they knew about the Kromagg Mallorys...they had put their sons on other worlds to protect them before the war was over. Why do that? Because they needed someone who could activate the way to Kromagg Prime who would be accepted and keep the "door" open long enough for the Kromaggs to sneak in and overwhelm K Prime before it could react. Now...they get to looking around and remember this Quinn Mallory who was lost from home that they had a tracking implant in.

And all this time...one of the real sons is on "Unstuck Man" earth...and our Sliders run into him later. Ironically, our Quinn gets merged with him...and ends up being one of the real sons after all since he is now supposedly inseparable.

Tf
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Good TF

Date: 01/29/2000
From: humaggs

Very good TF. I didn't think of that.
Humaggs

Giving the writers too much credit

Date: 01/29/2000
From: Kromagg1

The thing about the writing team this season is not only are they clueless but they also thing that we'll just accept anything they heave at us. Now if this was a *really* clever show known for its great story arcs and continuity then maybe I'd consider this to be a really clever puzzle left for us to figure out. Now the season 4 writing team could have pulled this off. They showed clever placing of evidence that Colin wasn't who he seemed to be. But when they found that they didn't want to go that direction, they easily ignored the hints previously given because they were so cleverly hidden and only a keen eye or ear would pick them up and piece them together. Now it seems that they just *love* throwing around technobabble with no definitions so that they can define them at a later date and basically not be stuck going one direction, they can basically use the technobabble to play the arc any way they want. But this team basically made a mud pile with the definitions of words and theories and all sorts of stuff. Instead of looking down at the mess they created to see if there is a story in the mess or possibly make some sense of the mess (like TF did) they just decided to poke at the mess. Smush it around a bit. Occasionally just clearing the mud away and putting down new mud. Then building on that mud pile. How did they go from trying to find a way to defeat the Maggs to all of a sudden randomly trying to find Remmy's earth? They'd already been there, they know it's occupied by Kromaggs but gee golly, let's just forget that and use the magic PDL to get closer and closer with every slide all the while forgetting that the coordinates are already in the timer. And none of them showed any emotion that all of their home coordinates were erased from the timer. Mallory and Diana's home was lost, Maggie's colony was lost, Remmy's EP was lost, but did anyone show any emotion? Nah. And did Gieger ever actually say that separating the Quinns was ever impossible? It was difficult, yes, but when did he ever say it was impossible? If it was, why did Diana and Mallory even come along? That was the latest in the mud pile of objectives. It's like that saying, 'if you put a million monkeys at computers and have them type eventually one will type a perfect paper' or something like that. Anyway, we've got a group of monkeys who are almost there but the paper still is riddled with typos, incorrect word usage, and even some punctuation errors. :-) I think we've all got the idea. Yeah, it's a great story that works and will tie up much of the chaos and please many fans and also make it look like the crap was put there on purpose (and not put there for someone to slip on), but I doubt anyone will ever pick up on it. It's funny, though, how every question about that theory can be answered by something that the writers placed (obviously not on purpose) and will easily work. Frustrating that we've got such an easy solution that will never get done.

Kro1

Perhaps....

Date: 01/29/2000
From: QRShift

Perhaps Giger had kidnapped Mallory when he was a baby and originally placed him with foster parents, we have no idea how long he had been unstuck after all.
Also has anyone considered the possiblity that Colin might have been another fraternal counterpart, and Quinn only assumed that he was his brother because the microdot said so?

WELL, MAYBE...

Date: 01/30/2000
From: STMSTS

It could be that the dimesional frequency that Geiger was refering to could be that of our Quinn. That would mean that Geiger is from Earth Prime. Possible, yes?

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