E Online JOC Interview Not True

Date: 03/14/2000
From: TemporalFlux

http://www.eonline.com/Reviews/Movies/Scoop/000310.html

In the article, the following is stated:

"During his junior year at NYU film school (for sreenwriting), Jerry decided to try out for two TV pilots: Sliders and a new Fox show called Party of Five. He spent a single day in L.A. and landed the Bailey role in Party, but before he could get back to New York, the studio's first choice for Sliders backed out. Stuck a day before shooting without a lead, they begged Jerry to fill in. The rest is teen-idol history.

'Isn't that funny?'" O'Connell asks. 'And every time I see Scott, I laugh.'"

I e-mailed all of this to both Tracy Torme' and Robert K. Weiss in an attempt to find who the original actor for Quinn was. Here are the responses:

Weiss:
"Total BS! Nobody backed out at the last minute.
Keep Sliding,
Bob"

Torme':
"No, that story isn't true. Jerry was on board weeks and weeks before the pilot was shot - attended many rehearsels, etc. No one else was ever offered the part."

Tf
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http://www.dimensionofcontinuity.com

Gee

Date: 03/14/2000
From: HunterD_Raven

So you're saying Jerry is a lieing sack of shiz-nit.
that will suprise absolutely NO ONE!
HunterD
(Just for the record that's a slam at JOC...not you)

I Knew It!

Date: 03/14/2000
From: Informant

I knew I would have heard about this sooner! Jerry is such a loser!

Thanks TF!

Eric Stoltz

Date: 03/14/2000
From: Slider_Dee

I "heard" on the 'net that Eric Stoltz was the "original" Quinn.

I had also "heard" that Jerry tried out for 2 roles, Party of Five and Sliders, but that he only got Sliders. (That is, he was never offered a part on Party of Five).

Just goes to show, especially on the internet, one must pay attention to sources.

I'm inclined to believe that Jerry never was offered Party of Five and that he was the only actor ever cast as Quinn -- that is, no backing out by Eric Stoltz.

Wonder why the past is being re-edited ......

DeeDee

Some people are so gullible.

Date: 03/14/2000
From: Real_Slider

Slider_dee, I can tell you where you read about Eric Stoltz being the original Quinn. I posted that under the original E! Online article thread.... AS A JOKE!

Eric Stoltz was actually the original Marty McFly, and most of "Back to the Future" was shot with him before he was replaced by Michael J. Fox. This is no joke, and you can see pictures of Stotlz as Marty (and read articles about it) at bttf.com.

And that "gullible" comment? Wasn't meant as an insult. Just means you should consider the source before giving it credence.

Real_Slider

JOC is such a twat

Date: 03/14/2000
From: Stax_

Maybe he felt the piece about the world in Love Gods being his favourite world because there was no men there and he could easily get a date was popping up in too many interviews . JOC's got a new piece of rubbish to regurgitate in interviews .stax

Funny Slider Dee.

Date: 03/14/2000
From: mindflux

I think Eric Stoltz was the first James T. Kirk too... lol

Eric Stoltz was the original Marty McFly in BTTF btw... probably what you are thinking of Dee.

What else has jerry said that was a lie?

Date: 03/14/2000
From: Hyperspace

That's pretty bad to make up things so you can have a good story to tell. He probable thought the fans were to stupid to catch his lie.

Thanks TF for checking EGO O'Connell's story.

Hyperspace

Ques: Why would he lie about something..

Date: 03/15/2000
From: Afl

...like this? That doesn't make sense. If he was the first and only Quinn chosen, then why would he say this Scott Wolf was originally offered the job. Wouldn't it suit this so-called "EGO" you guys keep wanting to place on him, for him to just say he was the ONLY person who they wanted to play Quinn?

I don't know about you, but this seems to be taken out of context. Say what you will..."Oh...AfL, you are living in a dream world." Fine. Think that if you will, but the fact is...the paragraph before Jerry's quote was something E! Online wrote and just SAID that quote was in response to that! I have seen more info goofs in online articles than totally accurate ones. How about the article that said Jerry was from New Jersey? WHAT?!?! Where did they get their information??? He's from NYC!!! Grew up in Greenwich Village...AND I heard it from Jerry's own mouth on Conan when Body Shots was the movie he was plugging.

So until I hear the same thing about him being the second choice for Quinn from Jerry's own mouth in some interview...I'm going to reserve my opinion on this one.

I step down from my soap box.

AfL

P.S. The Enquirer and Star have interesting "put words in the celebrities mouth" too. But do we believe even half the stuff the print in those things? NO!

And one more thing.

Date: 03/15/2000
From: Afl

In regards to the "taking things out of context" point AND taking into consideration whether or not all this information has even some small truth in it, do we know the whole story??? NO!

*IF* these statements were made by Jerry, Bob Weiss, AND Tracy Torme, I'd like to hear the WHOLE story in a TV interview--from their OWN mouths--before I pass judgement.
Because like I said, this whole thing could have been taken completely out of context and misconstrued.

AfL

Well...

Date: 03/15/2000
From: TemporalFlux

Before you condemn me...all I did here was present the facts. I didn't say who fabricated what...just that it wasn't true (and it's not true...unless you think both RK and Torme' would lie when directly asked).

With that said...I can easily see two ways this would feed Mr. O'Connell's ego.

1 - Jerry saying that he originally had Scott Wolf's role on a much more popular show...and that Scott only got Jerry's hand me downs. I.e. Jerry was the one for the role...Scott just got it by default. Therefore, Jerry is the same caliber as the Party of Five cast.

2 - This one is more obvious. How would it feed Jerry's ego to say that Sliders production had to *beg* him to take the role. That's a hell of a lot more of a personal ego boost than just saying "Yeah...I auditioned and got the part."

As for out of context...why else would Jerry be laughing every time he saw Scott? I mean...if Jerry auditioned for the part and didn't get it...why would that cause ironic laughter? It doesn't make sense...the only option for that quote that really does make sense to me is the story they gave. Now...could the quote be fabricated? Sure...but E would be setting themselves up for some serious legal consequences to fabricate a quote like that. That's alot different than just placing up a story. And I don't think they would want to go there...not for a fluff piece like that article.

All I know is...Jerry has vividly and actively stretched the truth beyond the bounds of breaking before (the October AOL chat just to name a more blatant example). He also had the motive for his ego (if you look at it in that context).

Is that to say he lied here? No...but in my mind, he was certainly capable of it...and there's more to show that he did lie here than there is to show that he didn't.

Tf
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