Is
Buffy's Third Season over-rated? NSR
Date: 01/07/2003
From: ThomasMalthus
How many times have you read this or some variation thereof? "Buffy
hit its high point in Seasons Two and Three, but from there on out it
was all downhill." For a person who has enjoyed the bulk of what
"Buffy" Seasons Four through Seven has had to offer, I find
such statements disheartening and closed minded. But that's not really
the point of this post.
Why lump these two seasons together? If you're looking at the high
school years, or when Angel and Cordy were on the show, why not include
Season One? Because of perceived qualitative differences, mostly. The
first season was perceived to be weaker than the other two creatively.
Which brings me to a form of the title question: was Season Three as
good as or better than Season Two? Does it deserve such accolades?
Now don't get me wrong. I like the Third Season. Faith was cool, the
Mayor was funny, and it was the last time we had a truly enjoyable AND
menacing season-long Big Bad. "The Zeppo" and "Earshot"
would probably both make my top ten Buffy episodes list. Hell, the Third
Season was what got me hooked on "Buffy". So why am I questioning
its place in the upper echelon? One, because I don't think it was as
good as Season Two, the best season so far and two, I think Season Five
was clearly better.
I won't go into too much detail here, but here's my rundown of the
three seasons, as a unit. Season Two not only mastered the monster-of-the-week
format started in the First Season but also gave us the Angelus story
arc, perhaps the best series of episodes in the show's history. The
one-two-three punch of Angel going evil (thus saving the show's two
leads and lovers from Sam and Diane syndrome), Jenny Calendar's murder
(the show has rarely been as bold since) and Angel being sent to Hell
by Buffy took the show to new heights of creativity.
Season Five is less spectacular, getting off to a slow start from trying
to repair much of the "damage" from Season Four, if you believe
such a thing existed. The first ten episodes are the weaker part of
the season, although they do produce some good 'uns: including the very
funny Dawn-introducing "Real Me", "No Place Like Home"
and "Fool for Love", it's the final twelve that set this apart
from the remaining seasons. There's nary a weak entry in the bunch (OK,
maybe Weight of the World, although that does have a certain psychological
allure to it). Also, we get the instant classic "The Body"
where Buffy's mother dies of natural causes and then "The Gift"
where Buffy herself dies to save the world. (Both moves bold enough
to rival Ms. Calendar's death.)
However, Season Three is much more of a mixed bag. It doesn't get off
the ground creatively until "Band Candy" (up to which point
we endured the worst season premiere in the show's history, "Anne",
the preachy "All Men are Beasts" and the horror that was Scott
Hope). Despite some solid entries from that point on, including "Lovers
Walk" and "Helpless", the show faltered down the stretch,
particularly after the aforementioned "Zeppo" episode. Only
one ep not penned by Joss was very good after that point, and that was
Marti Noxon's "The Prom"*, which was a tad angsty, but not
by Noxon's standards.
But if the show had one major problem over the season, it was Angel.
What to do with a character who you brought back, thus cheapening the
previous season's finale, just so he can have his own spin-off show
next year? Answer: have him skulk around doing precious little and playing
a pivotal role in very few episodes. "Amends", "The Prom",
the list pretty much stops there, doesn't it? What other episodes would
have suffered without him in it? And if the Angelus arc allowed the
show to dodge Sam and Diane Syndrome, Season Three had the pair wallow
in it. Their scenes were overwrought, overplayed and underwhelming,
so much so that "The Zeppo" took perhaps its best pot shot
(and there were many) at their dwindling relationship.
There are other things I could get into (the longterm irrelevancy of
the Willow-Xander-Cordelia-Oz 'romantic quadrangle', the poor treatment
of Cordy after said quadrangle ended, the lack of anything to do with
Mr. Trick, etc.), but I don't want to lambast the show during this period
too much. After all, every season has its flaws, while every year of
"Buffy" has been enjoyable on the whole. Still, I'm too much
a fan of the entire series' run not to point out that Season Three wasn't
as perfect as a lot of people think. When you're watching your Season
Three DVDs (released today here in the U.S.) see if you can catch what
I mean.
ThomasMalthus
*Thinking I forgot "Earshot"? It's a distinct possibility,
but let's not forget that this episode didn't air until September, thus
making it almost more a Season Four episode than a Season Three one.
Like the finale, "Graduation Day, Part 2", it was postponed
because of the incident at Columbine. Such network mismanagement (and
the incompletion of the season until months after the season was scheduled
to be finished) is not lost on me as yet another reason why this year
doesn't deserve to be conjoined with S2.
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Third
in a walk
Date: 01/07/2003
From: Recall317
Five isn't even close.
That's my gut reaction. Maybe I'm just fan of the Sunnydale High setting
and maybe I really like the Mayor. The third season was fantastic, and
that doesn't discount a somewhat weak beginning. I didn't see the let-up
as the year wound down. Not as extraordianry as S2's back 9, but still
very enjoyable.
Fifth season? Eh. It's OK. I liked the 4th season more.
R317
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S3's
back nine weren't pitch perfect.
Date: 01/07/2003
From: ThomasMalthus
I don't think I'm off base here. But BT is.
I suppose "Bad Girls" was decent, although it certainly was
no "Surprise". The choice of Noxon to write the script for
"Consequences" is a little baffling; one would think the 'turning
point' of the season would be scripted by Whedon, particularly since
he wrote the next episode, "Doppelgangland" (a sequel to an
episode initially written by Noxon). At any rate, the decision didn't
work well: Noxon's Consequences was clunky and Whedon's Doppelgangland,
though entertaining, felt a little insubstantial.
"Enemies" is pretty hokey, particularly considering we know
Angelus isn't going to make a permanent return (because of the Angel
spin-off). "Earshot" I've already dealt with: great, but not
technically part of the line up if you watched the season real time.
"Choices" treads water and tries to sell Willow's kidnapping
as a moral dilemma when nobody really believes Buffy will let her die
just so they can hang on to the Box of Gavrok.
The last three are good, but not great. The hellhounds are a little
lame and the breakup between Buffy and Angel is well executed. Also,
the final fight between Buffy and Faith is great. Grad Day, Part 2 was
also delayed, thus disrupting the flow of the season.
We can differ about which of the later seasons is the best; my point
was that S3 is not of the same caliber of S2. Seasons Four, Five and
Six are being knocked roundly for S3. Given the similarities in quality,
I don't think that's fair.
ThomasMalthus
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My
point of view...
Date: 01/07/2003
From: Informant
I don't even try to look at the seasons in terms of "best"
or "worst" or rank them in any way like that. It's just not
something that works for me. In my eyes, each season has a different
feel to it, setting itself apart, but also makes a worthy addition to
the bigger picture. So even the year or years that aren't as much fun
to watch are still as interesting because they still add a lot to the
bigger picture.
Season 3, in my mind, doesn't stand above or below any other season.
They're all equal. Season 3 has a lot to say about what it means to
be the Slayer, and that's interesting because we got a really good look
at Buffy and what makes her tick. Which can be said for the rest of
the gang too, in other ways. Season 3 set up a lot for the future, but
also provided an interesting, well written season in it's own.
And why am I the only one who seems to like "Anne"?! I think
that episode rocks!
I have to agree about Angel. He didn't really bring a lot to the table
(did provide a good intro to season 7's baddie though). I wouldn't have
minded if he died in season 2.
In your reply, you sound like "Doppelgangland" wasn't a huge
episode. Which is true, in terms of season 3. But watch it again with
season 6 Willow in mind, and suddenly it's huge. Joss had to set up
Willow's mental state carefully, which is probably why he did that one
himself.
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some
vague thoughts
Date: 01/07/2003
From: Slider_Sarah
Yes, vague cos I barely know what I'm writing 9no, I'm not drunk, I've
just been working stupid hours).
Season 3. Hmmm. Well, first of all I liked it and continue to like
it, but now you mention it, I find Angel a somewhat boring character.
He becomes predictable, at least in my memory and generally just dull.
(Unlike the season 6 Spike)
Honestly, I couldn't tell you which ones were season 2 and season 3.
They have sort of moved together in my mind, maybe that's what every
one else has done? ithink I mix them otgether though, because they ran
together on BBC2, and that was when I started watching I believed.
In comparison, season 4 was lacking something. The initiative never
interested me, and I found the character of Riley to be underdeveloped.
Plus I always thought it struggled with Xander oonce they were out of
school, ANd i found the American college life so different from the
one here (is it relatively accurate? I really am curious0
Season 5 I felt got a lot stronger and I loved season 6. The way things
stand at the moment, I might well consider rating either of them above
season 3, but then I haven't seen most of season 3 for some time.
Earshot and Graduation Day were shown in the intended order here (in
fact, I seem to have an inkling that we got Earshot before the US, but
I could be wrong), so I will always consider season 3. There were some
very good episodes in season 3, like with most series, and some bad.
I wasn't overly fond of the mayor, but thought the faith arc was fantastic,
and I enjoyed the quadrangle stuff. And Doppelgangland thing
Maybe I'm just weird and random.
Sarah.
slider_sarah@hotmail.com
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Each
season is so very distinct
Date: 01/07/2003
From: Grizzlor
that is the beauty of the show! You can't rate one higher than the other.
I personally have enjoyed much of some of them over others. My CLEAR
least favorite though is the Fourth season, where they are college freshman,
Willow becomes gay, Buffy and Riley, the phantom military group what
was it? I can't even remember it stunk so bad. Oz leaves, no Angel,
Giles stunk, I just didn't like it as a whole. Season 1 was great, 2
was more serious yet a lot of fun, 3 was cool too. Five and Six were
pretty good. Seven (this year) has been ok. Again, I think each year
has had many great moments, but as a whole "ARC", season 4
was really dumb.
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"Buffy
hit its high point in Seasons Two
Date: 01/07/2003
From: Stax_
and Three, but from there on out it was all downhill."
As some one who believes that to be true and can make a perfectly sound
argument as to why, I'd like to see why the statement is 'disheartening
and closed minded'.
Your description of S3 seems really flippant. 'Faith was cool'. Yes,
she was also textured, sympathetic and charismatic. She had an emotional
connection to the Scoobies as well as a being a distorted magnifying
glass through which we could examine Buffy. And Dushku is a scene stealer.
'The Mayor was funny'. And a nifty metaphor for the kind of corrupt
authority one needs to rebel against to avoid becoming a mindless automoton.
And we could care about him because he cared about Faith. And Groener
could turn on a dime.
Trick I'd put on a par with Glory. Both got funny lines.
I like Glory more than most but that's because I'm a dialogue man through
and through and she had snap. Unfortunately she's an totally incompetant
villain. She was allowed ONE scene of menance and she only seriously
began to pursue the Key LESS THAN 24 HOURS before the its deadline for
use in the ritual. It's hard to be scared by some one than dumb. She
offers nothing metaphorically, fits no real life situation and because
she was eeeeeevil and distant Buffy experienced no internalisation of
conflict as she did with Angelus, the Mayor and Faith. But Glory was
only a small part of that arcs failings.
Q. Why has the S5 arc more holes than a colander?
A. Because if it hadn't, where would the plot flow?
I can think of 20 gaping plot holes in the S5 arc off the top of my
head. S3 had some inconsistent Faith characterization in 'Enemies' and
er, that's it.
Season Two mastered the monster-of-the-week format and yet still managed
to give us 'Some Assembly Required', 'Inca Mummy Girl', 'Reptile Boy',
'The Dark Age' and 'Killed by Death'? It wasn't until S3 that they nailed
it.
Couple those clunkers with the decidedly underwhelming 'What's My Line'
two parter and the putrid pile of excrement that is 'Surprise' and the
first half of S2 becomes really shaking looking. Sure factoring in the
corker 'When She Was Bad', the quirky character study 'Halloween', the
wonderful entertainment 'School Hard', the mini-masterpiece 'Lie To
Me' and some well-contructed, highly competant dramatic pieces like
'Bad Eggs' sturdy it up but it still feels ... bitty. The quality really
ebbs and flows.
S5 feels the same, except (save for 'The Body', the only bona fide
work of genius either show has produced) the highs are lower and the
lows are lower. 'Real Me' and 'Fool For Love' WERE good (FFL moreso)
but 'No Place Like Home'? The word 'inert' springs to mind. 'Buffy vs.
Dracula' had a fluffy camp value and 'Family' worked in an 'inept magician's
trick' kind of way. However, the bad episodes in S5's first half were
awful. 'Out Of My Mind' was very poor, 'Listening to Fear' has the weakest
first half of any 'Buffy' episode and 'Into The Woods' is S5's 'Wrecked'.
It ruins a character but you're too busy laughing to care.
The episodes of the second half are substantially better but the overall
effect is less than the sum of its parts. As the Glory arc crumbles,
S5 reveals itself to be little more than smoke and mirrors when compared
to S2 or S3. IWMTLY has a strong final act but not much more. 'The Gift'
is dishonest and cowardly. And TWOTW is boring.
S3, on the other hand, is pure consistency. 'Enemies' may be dishonest,
'Dead Man's Party' may be undisciplined, 'Gingerbread' may be over the
top but I can't bring myself to not like them. They have charm. They
also make their points in spite of their bluntness. You feel Buffy's
isolation in DMP and righteous indignation in 'Gingerbread'.
'Anne' is solid stuff and comes in between the superior WSWB and 'The
Freshman' and inferior 'Bargainings' and BvD in the premier stakes.
Their are plenty of episodes to support Noxon's man-hating sadism but
'Beauty and The Beasts' isn't one of them. I'd consider your "All
Men are Beasts" meaning as a serious misreading of the episode.
I will never understand the Scott Hope hate. He was entirely inoffensive
and only around for three episode. And unlike characters like Clem he
had a purpose in each. In 'Faith, Hope and Trick' he highlighted Buffy's
emotional fragility, in B&tB he provided a connection to the MOW
and in 'Homecoming' ... Faith made fun of him. All good stuff.
I'll post more later.stax
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If
anything...
Date: 01/08/2003
From: Slidemania
S4 was the most overrated.
S5/S6 rocked!! S1 was better than either S2 or S3, but I prefer S3
over S2.
My rundown of Buffy's seasons:
Season 6 - The best of them all, since everything gelled so well together.
Willow's descent into evil was phenomenal, Amy's return was long-overdue,
Buffy's resurrection and the reality of Buffy and Dawn having to adjust
to life without Joyce were well-done.
Season 5 - The introduction of Dawn saved what was previously a HORRID
fourth season, Anya becoming a regular was awesome, Glory as a maniacal,
pseudo-indestructible deity was a welcome twist, and Joyce's death was
extremely powerful and unexpected. One of my favorite moments in this
season was - - after Glory kidnaps Dawn and then Willow enters Catatonic
Buffy's subconscious - - when Willow recognizes the Aborigine Slayer
from S4 and asks her, "How've ya been?" LOL!!
Season 1 - A much more innocent time, with some lively, funny episodes.
Season 3 - Overall I thought this one was better than S2 because the
ensemble was stronger. Oz was a major player, and Willow finally began
to find a strong identity as a character. Still, there were some parts
of it I didn't care for...The Possessed Mask episode, the gingerbread
episode, Amy turning into a mouse and staying that way...but it more
than made up for it with the Alternate Evil Willow episodes (I apologize,
I don't have each episode's name memorized).
Season 2 - Didn't really like it...Jenny Calendar's death was dumb,
and the Spike/Dru storyline wore out its welcome. The only episode that
I LOVED from that season was the one with the swim team turning into
fish-monsters.
Season 4 - Bottom of the barrel. Let's see, where to start...they portrayed
college life in the most stereotypical tacky way possible, made Buffy
a virtual punching bag for the first part of the season, the Willow
and Tara storyline got off to a rocky start, I didn't like the Adam
storyline or Oz's departure, the Buffy/Faith body-switching episode
was STUPID!!!...the only good parts of this season were the return of
Anya, Spike's implant, and the episode "Hush." But overall,
those elements couldn't save a drastic drop in the lack of quality.
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Second
Season is how it should be done
Date: 01/08/2003
From: Recall317
Not just Buffy, drama in general
To me, Buffy's second season is the model, a template for good work.
You start your season with a re-establishing ep, one that brings old
viewers up to speed and introduces new viewers to the characters and
concepts. Then you fall it up with a flurry of quality, non-arc eps.
In this case, Buffy worked the monster-of-the-week eps. There's character
development (Willow-Xander, Xander-Buffy, Buffy-Angel, Giles-Jenny,
Spike-Drucilla), but the season arc isn't all that present. Throw in
a high impact two-parter around ep 8 or 9 (you may not have liked the
ep, but a second slayer is high impact). A couple more good eps and
then boom, into the big back 9 arc, which is a tremendous arc (Angelus).
The only out of place ep in the season was "Go Fish", which
occurred a little too late in the season for my tastes (20th, I think.)
Still, that's the way I like my series. And Buffy has used that template
ever since, albeit to varying levels of success. I think it worked best
in year two, worked equally well in year 3, a little bit off in year
4, worked in year 5 (I just wasn't as interested in its big bad), and
then they strayed in S6 with a new format. S7 looks like a return to
the S2 template.
Stax, you don't like "Surprise"? I'm...er, surprised by that.
R317
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Agree
with Recall on that, plus more...
Date: 01/08/2003
From: ThomasMalthus
...with Keeling! Keel over, BT!
I pretty much knew I was going to get a buzz of different opinions
on this, but wow! Info: it really depends on what sort of mood I'm in.
The series is fluid enough that it's hard to evaluate it strictly in
terms of seasons, but sometimes that's still fun to do. Most seasons
have themes and characters that are exclusive to them.
I'm not really moving around topics in any order here, but on the subject
of Faith, I don't think they really worked very hard to put her in with
the Scoobies. Xander and Willow dug her big time in "Faith, Hope
and Trick" and Faith and B bond easily in "All Men are Beasts"
after being at each others throats the previous ep. Then "Revelations"
changes all that, all because of Angel issues and a watcher gone bad.
Faith is portrayed as the outsider from there on out.
I'm sorry you were miffed by my tone in calling Faith "cool",
Stax. It wasn't supposed to be an in depth character portrait nor an
off hand dismissal; Faith was indeed key to the season's dynamics. Unfortunately,
from "Bad Girls" through "Graduation Day, Part 1"
nothing much interesting happened to the character. Her betrayal had
nowhere near the impact of Angelus. Also, I must disagree on your assessment
of "Some Assembly Required" (lame Frankenstein villain, good
dialogue), "What's My Line?" (Sunnydale High Career Day, lots
of great lines, Angel thrown in a cage for the first time, the Spike-Dru-Angel
triangle showing itself for the first time, Kendra's bad Jamaican accent,
what more could you ask for?), "Surprise" (although not as
good as "Innocence", it did set up most of the relationship
arcs for the next season and a half), and "Bad Eggs" (good
start, boring ending).
Also, I'd like to comment on Season Four. I don't think it's overrated,
simply because so much of what I've read from fans around the net is
generally negative about it. If it were rated highly, I would agree.
As it was, the fan reaction was pretty tepid. S4 had a lot of good,
solid episodes but a villain that was a tad lame and poorly executed
(in both meanings of the term).
Otherwise, pretty much agreeage all around. Again I'd like to stress
I *like* Season Three, I just don't think it's of the same caliber of
Season Two and definitely not of the Angelus arc.
ThomasMalthus
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Post
more later
Date: 01/08/2003
From: Stax_
Angel worked fine for me. I don’t subscribe to the belief that
regulars should have huge screentime by virtue of being regulars or
that because you had a pivotal role the previous season you need to
have one this season. Tell me an interesting story about Buffy and use
Angel or Willow or Percy to whatever degree is necessary to do that.
I’m quite fond of the Buffy/Angel romance of S3 and I’m
in no way relationship inclined. The neither here nor there nature of
it was very true to life. Some of stuff in ‘The Prom’ was
self-indulgent and the end of ‘Lovers Walk’ is kinda flat
but otherwise it was lovely.
‘Helpless’ to ‘Graduation Day 2’ is the greatest
run of episodes ‘Buffy’ has ever produced.
‘Bad Girls’ sparkles. The best set-up episode of ‘Buffy’
par none. It lays ESSENTIAL thematic groundwork for the rest of the
year and the ‘Faith as Buffy’s dark side’ conceit
wouldn’t be half as resonant without it. Its structured like a
hook, onto which the meat of the episode can be hung. The dialogue is
razor sharp, the pace is relentless and it’s totally involving
(Everything from Buffy’s quiet shock at being arrested to Willow’s
isolation is transferred to the audience) . Very few plot twists can
make you rise from your sit in glee at the fittingness of it all and
Faith killing Finch is one of them. And the vampire nest/dance sequence
bit is one of the most layered, potent visuals of the series, all carnality
and raw power. Any episode emphasising the ‘slayers as lesbians’
subtext with Eliza Dushka and the When She Was Cute Sarah Michelle Gellar
is fine by me.
‘Consequences’ is overly segmented. It also ties up the
first half of S3 in the neatest of packages. It makes explicit Faith’s
reason for being and makes sense of Buffy’s growing irresponsibility.
It’s as much a reflection as it is a turning point. It addresses
issues that need to be addressed and has conversations that need to
be had and does so with panache. Yes, the plot is driven by Angel and
Wesley ex machinas but it still feels natural and unforced and the individual
scenes range from merely good to best ever. The Buffy/Giles/Xander/Willow
scene in the cafeteria is a masterclass in writing and one of the best
scenes ‘Buffy’ has ever produced (And that’s saying
something)
‘Doppelgangland’ is hilarious. It’s also the best
examination of Willow we had had up to that point. It tells us bucketloads
about her inferiority complex, her view of her place in the order of
things and VampWillow is a neat insight into her darker impulses. It’s
her BBB but with more polish. Also it compliments themes.
‘Enemies’ has a cheat ending and sags early on but it entertains.
‘Earshot’ is funny, smart and poignant. But we agree on
that.
‘Choices’ treads water but it treads water interestingly.
It wasn’t deriving it’s drama from Buffy’s moral dilemma,
Buffy makes it explicit from the moment her options become clear that
she’s going to trade off. The argument scene is dramatic because
of the conflict between Wesley and Buffy, not because of a conflict
within Buffy. ‘Choices’ could be a strong standalone. Instead
of a MOW they used the recurring villains, people we were invested in.
It allowed The Mayor and Faith’s bond to be solidified and foreshadowed
the ‘return of Faith to the good side’ non-event. It also
has a theme that comprehensively covers the nature of choices, the motivations
that inform them and the unforeseeable consequences of them. Like ‘Doppelgangland’,
it can take its place in S3’s Wall O’ Central Theme.
‘The Prom’. Noxon likes the character’s love lives.
She doesn’t like monsters. And you can tell she isn’t even
trying to integrate the two here. Some of the lines are dodgy and the
break-up scene doesn’t pack much of a punch, I kept wishing Angel
would choose his words less carefully or that Buffy would get angrier.
But they’re overshadowed by a strong beginning and end and great
moments from almost all the characters. It’s hard not to love
that group of people.
‘Graduation Day pt 1’ The season finale of the year. If
you ever want to sell ‘Buffy’ to some one on the grounds
that it’s more than a guilty pleasure, forget the metaphors, ‘Buffy’
is a drama about moral choice. S1 was the orientation. S2 asks ‘How
and why do I have to make decisions I don’t want to make?’.
S3 asks ‘How and why do I have to make decisions that I don’t
know are the right thing to do?. S4, S5 and S6 don’t bother with
any of that stuff. This episode is the culmination and consolidation
of the entire year, linking seamlessly into everything from ‘Revelations’
to ‘Doppelgangland’. It’s layered, loaded with subtext
and doesn’t drop a ball in the process.
‘Graduation Day pt 2’. The coda and Whedon’s summation
of the past three years. So what does he say, besides “I’m
a frickin’ genius”? That young adults need a strong sense
of morality and independence leaving school or they’re dead meat.
It’s no coincidence that was that for Harmony. It’s epic
while remaining personal, visually gorgeous and packed with metaphor.
The best season finale? I think so.
I agree with you on Cordy and Trick but not on ‘Earshot’.
You seem to be trying to bolster your argument by pointing out it was
ran out of order ONCE in ONE country.
3 things. S3 knows what it wants to say, says it well and always remains
true to ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’. In S4 they begin a 180
degree turn that by S6 sees the show having successfully turned its
back on everything that made it special.
Why else is S3 the best season? It has the best directed episode (‘The
Wish’), the most underrated episode (‘Bad Girls’),
the best pacing and structure of individual episodes, the best sense
of tone, the sharpest dialogue, the most interesting and diverse group
of second-string characters, some damn fine cast chemistry, the clearest
sense of purpose, action derived character development, a strong but
not overriding central theme, the writers recognising they’re
working in a visual medium, Chris Beck still scoring, SMG still giving
nuanced performances and the finest fight choreography of the show to
date.
I'll post more later.stax
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The
last post I made...
Date: 01/08/2003
From: Stax_
was before I had read the replies.
I just find the majority of MOWs of S2 underwhelming. Alot of them
are solid but lack real dramatic flair. I'm going to go with the prohibitiveness
of using rigid metaphors as my reason for that.
I'm wouldn't get miffed over this. I'm just enthusiastic about discussion
and this is my only place to vent. Buffy fandom scares me.
I agree Faith hadn't the same effect as Angelus but she was better
drawn character and a cleverer conceit.
Faith slept with Xander in 'The Zeppo' who took more from it than he
should have and was hanging out with Buffy enough for Willow to have
felt sidelined in 'Bad Girls' and 'Consequences'. She had connections
to the Scoobies.
'Surprise' to me is, far and away, the worst episode of S2. It's just
an out and out BAD episode. It's a flailing, wasteful, rambling monsoon
of plot inconsistencies, character assassination, daft romanticism and
mawkish insincerity. It plays like the first draft of some gothic fantasy
a thirteen year girl wrote drunk.stax
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