ToFGaL Chairman's Balcony

Date: 07/05/2001
From: Recall317

Chairman Kaga317 cordially invites you, most esteemed guests, to be seated in his luxurious balcony to watch the proceedings. All spectators should feel free to comment on the match here. Whose flaming regime will reign supreme?

Give the competitors the ovation of the people!

The Chairman

Hai!

Date: 07/05/2001
From: DieselFukaiKenji

Sushi habachi sulu banzai! Yokagawa san ichi pupu. ahahah!

DFK

*gulp* |n/t|

Date: 07/05/2001
From: Blinker

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:-P~~~~~~~~~~

Date: 07/05/2001
From: SL4ever

I promise three things starting at midnight tonight.

1) Pain. Lots of it.

2) More than four replies ... from me alone.

3) A good time had by all.

Oh, and plenty of cheese dip.

Five dollars on Blinker! (end)

Date: 07/05/2001
From: SL4Beaver

Love the tuft!

Mendicant. $10 on SL4ever! (end)

Date: 07/05/2001
From: PFKAS

Love the PIE.

Idiot. $15 on Borg memory boy! (end)

Date: 07/05/2001
From: Sliding_Skull

Love the post links.

Do I hear $20? (end)

Date: 07/05/2001
From: Silly_Slidey

Love the money. :-P

Make mine baby back ribs!

Date: 07/05/2001
From: MissingSliderRyan

Kaga317,

So did you blowtorch a yellow pepper before eating it? ;-) Nice intro. :-D

Good luck to the contestants. :-D Uh... no eel, octopi, squid, turtles or other things that are deem inedible by me. LOL

MSRMSRNMSR

Waiting...

Date: 07/05/2001
From: SpaceTime

I'm waiting for SL's post tomorrow, in which he derides all of ToFGaL as a farce and flippantly decries it as beneath his abilities.

Then, THEN we shall have equilibrium. *And* Love™.

:P ST

Yokudekimashita.

Date: 07/05/2001
From: Brand_S

Minna wa, futoi, FUTOI inkei o taberu koto ga dekiru.

S

SL4....

Date: 07/06/2001
From: MissingSliderRyan

5 B-R4 B-N2

I'm assuming it's White QB to KR4 then Black moves QB to QN2, since KB is blocked by KN's pawn, is that correct?

Interesting chess game, SL4. Though as Black I wouldn't have moved my knight first. I would have gone with the conventional center pawn openings then my knights. As White, I would have moved my bishop and knight so that I could castle on the King's side then move my KR's Pawn to KR3.

As I see it, White wasted a move when QB went to attack the KN without any support. Now Black can easily castle when KB moves out of the way. After Black castles on the King's side, it will be harder for White to attack from that side of the board. since KR's Pawn has already blocked further attack.

If I were Black there are these two options:

Option A:
This is the one I'd do

6 KB-QK5 ch

White can either do one of the following
7 QK-KB3 or 7 Q-Q2 to block the check

Black would move 7 QK-QB3 to support the KB.

In this case, White is on the defensive and in a weaker postion than Black. There's no reason to castle on the Queen's side since it is open to attack. White can't castle on the King's side either, since KB is blocked by the pawns and can't move.

Option B:
6 QB X KN then White would either 7 KP X QB or 7 KNP X QB, which would further weaken White's position and castling on the King's side wouldn't be feasible.

So SL4, are you playing as White or Black? Black has an advantage with the moves so far.

MSRMSRNMSR

Meanwhile, at the chessboard...

Date: 07/06/2001
From: SL4ever

>I'm assuming it's White QB to KR4 then Black moves QB to >QN2, since KB is blocked by KN's pawn, is that correct?

That is correct.

>Interesting chess game, SL4. Though as Black I wouldn't >have moved my knight first. I would have gone with the >conventional center pawn openings then my knights. As >White, I would have moved my bishop and knight so that I >could castle on the King's side then move my KR's Pawn to >KR3.

It sounds like you play a similar style to me. I love establishing pawn structure and I tend to castle as soon as possible so that, my King secure, I can focus on attacking. The only problem with this strategy is that you can lose inititive, so I don't do it as often if I am White.

>As I see it, White wasted a move when QB went to attack >the KN without any support. Now Black can easily castle >when KB moves out of the way. After Black castles on the >King's side, it will be harder for White to attack from >that side of the board. since KR's Pawn has already >blocked further attack.

What you say is true, but I don't necessarily consider it a wasted move. What this has done is make castling on the King's side more risky. It's prefered to have the middle pawn be the extended one. In the arrangement we have, the left pawn (KR's) is extended and is only supported by the middle one, which is far weaker than the conventional extension and I would rarely castle on a side arranged this way unless I had no choice. Add to that the temporary pinning of the Knight and I don't think it's a wasted move at all. Of course, I'm not a chess master either so there might be something I'm missing.

>If I were Black there are these two options:
>
>Option A:
>This is the one I'd do

>6 KB-QK5 ch

This was an excellent call because that is exactly what Black does next! (what White does first does not change the essential setup)

>White can either do one of the following
>7 QK-KB3 or 7 Q-Q2 to block the check

7 is the key moment. For some bizarre reason, twice in international tournaments a strong White Grandmaster has done neither option you mention, making the blunder that will occur in White's 7th move. The reason these two are among my favorite tournament chess games is that in both cases White recovered from this egregious error to draw in one case and win in the other case. Whenever I make a huge mistake (not only in chess but in anything) I recall these two games to remind myself that it takes several mistakes to lose (either at chess or most other things). There is little you can't rebound from if you don't give up. A lot of grandmasters would have immediately resigned after their disastrous 7th move was exploited, but neither of these men did, and neither of them lost.

Since, through my own error, I lost my last time out to SpaceTime, I included one of these games (though they have progressed exactly the same so far) as my reply title arc to remind myself to focus on the rebound and not the error and to not give up. I'm one of those annoying bastards who is so steeped in symbology that almost everything I do in writing has some secondary meaning. Sometimes I am the only one who could divine it, and it is for me alone, as in this case.

So this answers your last question, I consider myself Black.

I'm glad you're enjoying the game. We should play ourselves, sometime. There are plenty of internet sites where it is possible.

Date: 07/06/2001
From: Blinker

You are a worthy opponent indeed, good buddy. Now, may the man with the larger hairstyle win!

...unless he's not me.

- Blinker 7:-P
http://slidersweb.net/blinker

Date: 07/06/2001
From: SL4ever

No Full House references. :'-( My heart is going break if one of us doesn't find some way to work that in.

Since only main handle posts count (unless the rules have changed) I can say that I thought the first post was clever. But I was shocked, SHOCKED to see you swearing! If you've done it before in some other round I must have forgotten or not seen it. I swear privately like a sailor on CRACK but I've tried to censor myself when on IM with you because I wasn't sure if you did or not.

The first reply title alone answered THAT question! LOL!

I shouldn't be surprised.

Date: 07/06/2001
From: SL4Beaver

I can't BELIEVE you pulled that PFKAS link out! That one sounds really ugly. :-O LOL

Does it mitigate at all that I was talking about pussy? ROTF. I swear that "sucking pussy" is a common term in these parts! I can't speak for other parts of the US or the world.

>:-# I should make sure my alternate handles speak more clearly from now on!

Mein Gott!

Date: 07/06/2001
From: capaqu

I *really* needed to relax this weekend! You guys have given me work! Gaaaaaahhhhhhh!!

Cappy Asako
;)

Nice one, mate.

Date: 07/07/2001
From: SL4ever

Blinker: Well, its in the hands of Ye Morty Judges now. :-P Today's been a really crappy day and this was the only highlight. Nice contest! I enjoyed it, the HeraldTribune post and the last attack were especially clever. <shakes hands>

SpaceTime: Come ON, man! Please don't tell me that I've hurt the feelings of a self elevated flame GOD????? If you can't take what you regularly dish out to Informant (among others) then I suggest trying a larger size panty. The ones you have on now are OBVIOUSLY too tight! :-*

Whuh?

Date: 07/07/2001
From: SpaceTime

SL,

Why would I be offended? Here we have a fight that is essentially two of my clones reduced to the ultimate snooze-a-thon. My style plundered like Executive's anus, my phrases duplicated. Blinker throws out enough homosexual references to make Harvey Fierstein blush and you fall back on referencing me every other paragraph.

Since this "battle royale" was little more than a vanilla replica of our fight, why should I be offended? I should be glad that while I sharpened my blade between rounds, you let it get dull and rusty by the whetting stone. Good show, old chap!

Oh, you mean Twizzler? That ain't SpaceTime. I dunno WHAT you're getting at, Loverboy.

If you challenge me again (are you the Don Flamenco or Bald Bull of Flame Tournaments?), the loser buys the winner a sandwich and some tasty pie in L.A. Sound fair?

- ST :-P

:-*

Date: 07/07/2001
From: SL4ever

Tsk, tsk, Spacey. If you're going to establish a burden for yourself then it falls upon you to prove it. You made the statements "two of my clones reduced to the ultimate snooze-a-thon. My style plundered like Executive's anus, my phrases duplicated." You proved that Blinker did so by pointing out "Blinker throws out enough homosexual references to make Harvey Fierstein blush" but your only proof that I did the same was "and you fall back on referencing me every other paragraph."

Referring to you is cloning you? <takes a hit of CRACK> Nope, sorry, it still doesn't make sense. Pry yourself away from a mirror for a second and explain to me how I plundered your style. When did you ever trace someone's family line, do a dollar auction skit, write commericals about them, songs that they performed, etc. I even purposely avoided using all caps more than a couple times, if at all.

Oh, and the PIE meeting is going to have to happen before our contest. By this time tomorrow I'll be in LA, so if I win I can't fight until I get back in two weeks. But if you swear to not immediately throw yourself on the restaurant table and offer me a shot of ass, I'll meet you for PIE. I'll even pay for it. But I'm telling you ahead of time you're not getting any dick, just PIE. Sorry, but your manlove needs will have to be gratified elsewhere.

My traveling email address is dex_boy@hotmail.com

A View from the Gallery

Date: 07/07/2001
From: Blinker

[collapses into armchair]

Way to go, PIE-boy! 7:-P You sure put the "savage" into "Walter Savage Landor." Thanks for being the first remotely qualified opponent whom I've ever had more than five minutes to tear limb from limb. 7:-D

Any guesses on what I would've revealed your identity to be given another post? 7>:-P

- Blinker 7:-/
http://slidersweb.net/blinker

P.S.: The point of ripping off your genealogy idea was just to show up what a pansy you were being with it. 7:-D

Okay, I need help here (again)

Date: 07/07/2001
From: MiserableWench

I'm the "newest" judge. I don't know the rulesssssssssss!

First, Blinker (again!!!) had a late post. Does it count????

Second, *what* rules?????

Answers, please, or I may give the entire contest to my creator ~~~~ TWIZZLER!

MW
aka cappy

My vote is to allow his late post...

Date: 07/07/2001
From: SL4ever

...mainly because I believe him when he says he wrote it beforehand and would have posted it had he been able to. Oh, the joys of his slow assed Wang. :-P

I don't have a problem with allowing his late post so hopefully the judges will allow it.

Gracious opponent

Date: 07/07/2001
From: Recall317

The Chairman proclaims:

Judges will be allowed to consider the late post, as the opponent has no objections.

To the judges: Score each contestant on a scale of 1-10, 10 being flamtastic, 1 being a dull candle. As this was a themed battle, please add bonus consideration to any MSTie attacks. (The Chairman apologizes, but he has been unable to get to the battle due to a protracted fight with his internet provider.)

The Quality of Mercy

Date: 07/07/2001
From: Blinker

Gracious doesn't quite cover it. Thanks, guys -- that means a lot.

- Blinker 7:-/
http://slidersweb.net/blinker

Judge TIP

Date: 07/09/2001
From: TheIrrelevantPoster

TIP:If the TIP were a judge the TIP would score it 3-3: 3 TIP references to 3 TIP references (1 reference mentioning the TIP 3 times . . . Judge TIP will allow it)!!!!!!!

Bonust TIP:The TIP’s cousin ZIP also got a mention!!!!!

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