Date: 8/20/99
From: wade1013

...thing. I mean the show has gone down hill since the first two seasons and keeping it this way is only causing bitter fueds between the fans who see that it now sucks and the fans who are still following it due to blind loyalty. In a way I'm ahppy the show was cancelled because I can remember it when it was good and not as that horrible show that I used to like. I know there are people out there who will disagree with me and keep bitching about it (as has happened in my pervious posts) but thats thier problem. Afetr all this is a place to post your honest opinions on the show. Not what you think the rest of the posters want to hear. I am and always will be a Sliders fan but it's best that the show be cancelled now.

Like the Sci-Fi Channel said

Date: 8/20/99
From: Executive

"SLIDERS has run its course." But the same could also be said for other low-rated series that had been on for several years when the channel picked them up, such as "Poltergeist: The Legacy" and MS3TK.
Nothing lasts forever!

Typo: Should read "MST3K". ===> END

Date: 8/20/99
From: Executive

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I think ur both nuts. Of course,

Date: 8/20/99
From: stuslide

...that's my opinion.

 

 

Stuslide
SLIDERS: ALTERNATE SPIN
www.angelfire.com/ky/sliderspinoff
"Just think of the possibilities."

Shut the hell up!

Date: 8/20/99
From: s_the_great

Blind loyalty, my ass. If you want to appear unbiased and make it look like you are making a good point, don't go saying the show "now sucks." A better way would be, "Some think it sucks; some think it's cool."
But don't accuse me or anyone else of blind loyalty based on our opinions. How would you like it if I said, "You suck and the only people who like you are idiots?"

S

A correction

Date: 8/20/99
From: Jericho_Y2J

it is a war between those who like the good writing, good acting of season 5 and those who like Jerrys Ass only.

is that why I'm watching?

Date: 8/20/99
From: SoulReviver

Am I following the show because of "blind loyalty"? No! If you think that the show is suffering then, by all means, don't watch it. But, please don't say that it's time to put it to sleep. As I've said before, I consider it to be one of the best shows currently on TV. Not just Sci-Fi, but network television, too. This is not due to "blind loyalty". Whenever I begin to watch something that turns out to be pure crap, I turn it off. Even certain spin-offs of Star Trek.

No one puts a gun to your head to watch it, so I would reccomend that you just turn it off. Let it die, for you. I still like it.

SoulReviver

Looking up......

Date: 8/20/99
From: comickid

I don't agree with your statement that Sliders went downhill. I LIKED (yes liked) the 3rd and 4th seasons. Not nearly as much as the 1st and 2nd, but I still liked them. And now, with the 5th season the show is getting better. This is the best season since season 2 to me. I don't care that Sabrina, JRD, and the O'Connells are gone. I miss their prescence on the show, but they had their reasons (except for Jerry who was just selfish and a jerk) and the show is doing just fine without them. Cancellation now is, in my opinion, not good at all. You can't just kill the show without an ending. Thats like reading a book and discovering that the last 50 pages are missing.

Just one persons opinion,
comickid

This still applies to you...

Date: 8/20/99
From: s_the_great

http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/10397/9

S

Well written, kudos, comickid and...

Date: 8/20/99
From: MissingSlider

excuse me, I don't follow anything out of blind loyality! A matter of fact I bet the majority of us Slider fans probably do not following blind loyality -- we like it I bet because it is a good show and has a very good premise that a lot be done with! By the way if I followed your sorry excuse for telling me I was a blind loyalist, I would watch that god awful excuse for a show called "First Wave" because it's Sci-Fi, no way! And, if I also followed your idea, that I just follow everything out of blind loyality, earlier this year when my old favorite soap opera (that's been on television any of these shows including "Sliders" -- 62 years to be exact and for a soap opera it has had good and bad moments and times and years and even days) "Guiding Light" (Robert Floyd's home back in 1993 for you folks that might want to know -- when the writing was better and why still hold out some hope that Floyd's acting will improve because he did very well on that soap!) has slid (excuse the pun) this last year horribly down hill (and if you think I'm alone on that -- you might want to visit Debbie's Continuity Report board website at Spaulding Enterprises site -- and check out what the daytime Nielsen ratings are doing GL for it's sorry excuse for what it's turning into) because it is well known that the writers on that soap write the show while they are down at their favorite watering hole "drinking" and boy does it show! So, no I have know blind loyalities -- I'm one of the first to critize President Clinton for all his pecadilloes this last year; even though I'm died in the wool Democrat! So, get off that crap blind loyality! I like "Sliders" because it is a very good show, with a good premise, with a lot of promise and right now a pretty good cast and good writing and doesn't have to go overboard on it's special effects to tell a really intiguing story -- unlike some Sci-Fi shows I can mention (which I won't) or even a soap opera I use to like, "Guiding Light"!

wade1013 is a Jerry fan...

Date: 8/20/99
From: ElectricPeterTork

I have encountered her on in the Chat room,and she is always spouting "Sliders sucks without Jerry,Jerry was cute,Jerry made the show,and Robert Floyd is ugly."
Does that explain things?She doesn't like Sliders.She likes Jerry.
She doesn't care for well written,thought provoking stories,she just wants to see her eye candy every week and touch herself.

Got it?

not that JOC would wanta touch wade1013

Date: 8/20/99
From: MissingSlider

knowing that dork he's probably touching himself, too! JOC always seemed full of himself, especially after he made "Jerry McGuire";
now he has a fantasy touch-a-thon (and in all the wrong places) with wade1013! Oh, yeah, buffyboy, how small was that pr*ck of JOC's?

Hopefully the Sci-Fi Network won't continue to listen to wade1013's anymore and will get some common sense soon! (well, I can always hope can't I?)

Don't knock Wade!

Date: 8/20/99
From: Lekeran

There will always be fans (an increasing minority) who will clammer
for a show to its dying breath. But the networks look at the numbers, and the simple fact is Sliders numbers (ie: its ratings)
have gone below acceptable standards. If Sliders was still popular
and cranking in the killer ratings, let me tell you they would never
cancel it! Networks look at the cold hard numbers, that's what drives their markets. When the advertisers won't pay to advertise
during a show, there's no more profit in it for the network, thus
they pull the plug.
Unfortunately, ScFi can't keep a show on the air for a few thousand
dedicated viewers, when the mass market of hundreds of millions of
people want something new. It's sad, but its life.

Lekeran . . .

Date: 8/20/99
From: misswells

You have been misinformed. Sliders was the highest rating show on Sci-Fi. Go up a couple of replies (the 3rd, I think) and check out the ratings bit. They do look at numbers, but not with Sliders.
Got it?
misswells

Lekeran...do you know the facts?

Date: 8/20/99
From: ElectricPeterTork

Farscape is being renewed...It's ratings are only a point or two higher than Sliders.
First Wave's ratings are always lower than Sliders.Why isn't First Wave being cancelled?In fact,First Wave rarely gets above a 0.9 rating...Sliders is always above 1.0.Farscape is rarely above 1.3.So why hasn't Sci Fi gotten rifd of all of the Sci Fi Prime shows?
Know your facts next time before you start spouting off Bullshit,okay?

Lekeran--ratings . . .

Date: 8/20/99
From: misswells

You have been misinformed. Sliders was the highest rating show on Sci-Fi. Go up a couple of replies (the 3rd, I think) and check out the ratings bit. They do look at numbers, but not with Sliders.
Got it?
misswells

In my best the Divinyls imitation:

Date: 8/20/99
From: MissingSlider

Lekeran and wade1013 can touch themselves!

While the rest of us misswelles, ElecticPeterTork, informant, Jericho, TF, Blinker and anyone else I missed can work to save the show that is watched non-blindly!

Yeah as a matter of fact I do!

Date: 8/21/99
From: Lekeran

Internet ratings of Scifi Prime shows in the top 100
Sliders- 31 (Prime)
Farscape- 47 (Prime)
Highlander repeats- 33
Poltergist- not listed (Prime)
First Wave- the emmy nominated - 83 (Prime)

The above are the Internet ratings from pfdball.
You people are clammering that Farscape's lead over Sliders is small
but I count a big 16 point lead here, so what's your idea of small?
Secondly, Sliders is a veteran series (ie: the networks expect more
from it than a show in its infancy like First Wave or Farscape)
Sliders has been running for 5 seasons now, and the fact is, that
it is not growing any more, and if slowly declining. Highlander repeats out rank new episodes of Sliders, I mean come on!
I'm not saying Sliders deserves to be cancelled! Let me say that right of the bat. I loved the show for a very long time, and was
broken apart when Fox cancelled it, namely because at the time I
did not have SciFi.
I like or at least liked Sliders, but the ratings do not lie.
While you see the difference of ratings as only a single percentage
point or a fraction of a point.
I quote now from the Executive, because frankly he/she says it best.
"During the 4th season, SLIDERS was often getting ratings in the upper one range (around a 1.8 on the average) which wasn't too bad. A drop from the 2.2 for the "Genesis" season premiere, which was followed on that same June 8, 1998 evening by "Prophets and Loss"
with a 2.4. The majority of succeeding episodes scored less than
a 2. The channel had nothing to worry about at that point.
Yet SLIDERS * this * season was in the low 1 range (usually
between 1.0 and 1.4) which is a signifigant drop. Keep in
mind that all of the series this year -- new and old -- on the
Sci-Fi Channel are doing just as poorly and worse. Due to the departure of the O' Connell brothers (although in itself didn't bother me), poor writing in a majority (but not all) of 5th season episodes, and two new cast members with very little
chemistry with the veterans, several long-time fans left in
droves. So is it any wonder that SLIDERS has been getting a
1.1 rating for so many weeks?
Let's face it: The Sci-Fi Channel cancelled SLIDERS,
"Poltergeist: The Legacy", and "MST3K" because (1) they
just weren't delivering decent ratings anymore and (2) they
had all been in production for several years, on other
channels before they picked them up and these shows had all "run their course". They kept "First Wave" and "Farscape" because they are both fairly new series that need time to build an audience."
*I must thank the Executive for use of his/her facts to prove my
case.*
For a show to drop from 2.4, down to 1.0 is for it to lose over half of its audience. Now those are Neilson numbers gathered by
the Executive, and no matter how much you hate it, you cant argue with numbers. Each 1.0 is equal to a million or so households,
so to go down from at the very least 2.4 million people watching
Sliders to around a million, is a serious drop.
I now quote from the SciFi Wire:
"According to a SCI FI spokesperson, the channel thinks highly of Sliders but feels the show has simply run its course. During its
five-year run Sliders was canceled and resurrected twice, and the show also suffered the loss of four major cast members."
No matter how good a show is, it CAN NOT survive when it cuts out
its founding characters, who were its bread and butter, and the
reason we all (including myself) watched the show to begin with!
No show in existence is good enough to survive this, let alone one
with already sagging ratings.
In the end though, the numbers mean nothing, because they can contradict one another depending on who's numbers you use.
The final word is the SciFi's. They own the network, they pay for the shows, and if they don't want a show on any longer, if it is no
longer worth paying for, they will cancel it.
I may only speak for myself, but I will continue to watch the
"classic Sliders" weeknights, when the show was in its best, and
with its founding characters that made Sliders the success it was.

***ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE EXECUTIVE FOR USE OF HIS/HER FACTS
TO MAKE MY CASE HERE****

Lekeran whatever

Date: 8/21/99
From: stuslide

And we want to talk in terms of facts (allying with Executive...hmmm...someone who most posters dislike anyway), SLIDERS is still doing good ratings wise even though Scifi is no longer pushing it so don't you talk about it 'running its course.' You're just bent out of shape because someone tried to knock Farscape. If you want to complain about SLIDERS, how about you talk to Executive on the First Wave board.

Stuslide

You're right Stu

Date: 8/21/99
From: Lekeran

I am doing the same thing as each and everyone of you have.
Defending my show. When Farscape is knocked, especially with some
half baked notion, I won't sit by any more than the ten plus Sliders
fans have in my posts.
I defend my show. You defend yours. There is nothing wrong with that at all, its what America is about, standing up for what you
believe, having said that, I will leave now, with my point made.

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