Executive is a castrato!

Date: 10/17/99
From: Brand_S

Sorry. I didn't really mean that. It's just that I'm reposting and I'm hoping these get more replies than the originals did. These were some ideas I had that I thought turned out underrated. Please tell me what you think:

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Subject: Sliders Game

This has probably been posted before, but I think Sliders would make an excellent game. It could be a PC game, console game, or maybe even a board game. I mean, there would be so much to do.

When you slide into a world, you'd have a real-time timer (which you could pause) and you have to decide who keeps it. Then you'd look around the world you were in. Each world would be a level of the game. Of course, the levels could not be linear, as it would make the plot too easy, but rather generated randomly when the previous one is completed. You could talk to people and try to get as much information and make as many allies/friends as possible, a la Sid Meier's Civilization. The worlds could be a combination of worlds from actual episodes and new worlds for the game.
Of course, it'd be best if it had the original cast, plus the original recurring characters, like the lawyer [Ross J. Kelley], the cabbie [Pavel Kurlienko], the Dominion hotel clerk [Gomez Calhoun], that African-American waiter in Season 3 [Elston Diggs], Bennish, Quinn's mom, and yes, even Quinn's cat, Schrödinger.

Does anyone else have any ideas to build onto this?

S

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Subject: s_the_great gets philosophical.

I was thinking about something just now. Being "unstuck" in the way Damron describes it is impossible. Also, Geiger can't combine "every" world in the Multiverse and the Kromaggs can't take over "every" world. Here's what I mean.

The Multiverse, for the purposes of Sliders, is the set of every single universe in (and maybe outside of) existence. As I see it, it could be made up of two ways.

I) INFINITE universes. First, some S the Great terminology. A "split" is the term used when a world diverges into two or more worlds. The number of worlds is the number of "directions." Splits happen at any given time because anything that can happen does happen. In the time it takes to blink your eyes--hell, in the time it takes to read a word here and have it register in your brain--there are an infinite number of splits in an infinite number of directions. This happens literally AT ALL TIMES.

II) FINITE universes. What if the Multiverse isn't all that infinite? What if splits are more controlled? Maybe splits are a natural phenomenon. At a random time a split occurs in a given number of directions. It doesn't happen all the time and for every action that is taken, but just naturally and apparently randomly, like a lightning storm.

If I is true then the following things should be true too.

1) If you are unstuck, then splits will continue to happen, making more doubles of you. There won't ever be just one of you, except maybe for the moment you become unstuck. There would be more unstuck doubles of you who are just as unstuck as you.

2) Why would the doubles be destroyed? There are SO MANY factors that contribute to what makes an alternate a bona fide double. What if the person has different chromosomes? Is s/he a double then? What if the person has a different mother? A different father? What if a different sperm cell met the egg? What if a double was actually a pair of identical twins? (The cell split a different way when the person was conceived.) Siamese twins? What if a double was three days late in being born but still had the same name? (I think this is what happened to Mallory.) Who gets destroyed if an identical twin becomes unstuck? How do you define a double?

3) You can't take over every single world. Because then the worlds would split again based on whether or not you invade them. Combining worlds is no way to become any less stuck, because the multiverse grows constantly. The number of worlds won't even decrease depending on whether or not you invade them.

infinity - x = infinity
infinity - infinity = infinity

infinity×infinity = infinity
infinity^infinity = infinity

4) The minute you first slide, you have no home world. Earth Prime continued to split. There are now infinite Earth Primes. There are ones where the Kromaggs did take over, and ones where they didn't. There are ones where Maggie can and can't breathe. There's no ONE home anymore for them, because they weren't on a world when it split into infinite directions.
The minute you become a slider, you have no one home world, because, if you stay on one parallel world all your life, you are part of that world, and you are there for every one of its splits. When you leave it, the world splits without you there. However, you continue to split too if you are on any world. When splits occur while the Sliders are on a different world, this leads to "others," something Chaser9 can describe quite well, so I won't go into it.

But if II is true, then that changes everything.

1) Doubles are still not clearly defined, so it's not possible for them all to be destroyed.

2) Just because a number is finite doesn't mean it's attainable. If Geiger or the 'Maggs wanted to take over the Multiverse, it would take multitudes of lifetimes to do it, and there would still be a few left over. Also, if this was true, the number of worlds would still probably be astronomical, far beyond the comprehension of any human (although maybe Red XIII could grasp it. ;-) ).

3) Splits would still occur, so there wouldn't be just one home world. There wouldn't be just one set of Sliders either, though.

So WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? It means that the Kromaggs and Geiger had unrealistic goals. It also means that Colin's and Geiger's predicament isn't what anyone thinks it is, even Keith Damron. But this all adds up to one thing: I didn't like the way Jerry and Charlie were written out. Now, I think Robert and Tembi are great actors, and I like them much more than the Brothers O'Connell of Season 4. I don't regret for a second that Robert and Tembi are on Sliders.

But, I really think that the writers should have found a better way to write the brothers out. I understand that it was short-notice, but I could think of something good in twenty-four hours. Imagine the show's writers, who get paid for thinking. The only way I can see out of this current story arc is "Finite Worlds; Finite Possibilities." ;-)

Feel free to debunk me on any of this. It's mostly just off the top of my head.

S

DISCLAIMER: I want it to be made clear that I am writing this post from the most pro-S5 possible standpoint. I am by no means a Jerry-lover or a Charlie-lover. I really like Robert Floyd and Tembi Locke as actors. I have made it clear on several occasions that I agree completely with my friends Hunter, Buffyboy, and SoK666/EPT/SC69. I am doing my best not to come off as some kind of sellout. Please tell me I'm not a sellout!

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S

bout the game

Date: 10/17/99
From: HunterD_Raven

How about we have chooseable sliders.
We have EVERY slider available, Quinn,Mallory, hell even Colin.
And we have hidden characters you can choose after completeing something (Bennish,Logan,geiger,Maggs, or Humaggs would be great for this)
Also this way since i Hate Jerry i don't have to see his face while playing.
(even a code for Hidden "Nude world" just remember do NOT choose Arturo when you enter said code)

*Sigh* Mr. S

Date: 10/18/99
From: Fish_Bone

Please unless you don't want a flame war to break out,
Don't say stuff about Executive, ok?

>Sorry. I didn't really mean that.

Yes, we know your sorry, but if Executive starts flaming
you, guess who he can say started the war? YOU!

Please, I am not flaming you, just leting you know that if
you want a peacful board, don't say stuff like this just
cus you feel like it.

Sorry ;-)

Fish Bone
adamcastillo@hotmail.com

hhmm..

Date: 10/18/99
From: Shril

First off, i agree with hunter about the game, its a great idea, and hunters suggestions are great also((too bad i'm just starting to learn c/c++, i'd like to help make a sliders game))
secondly, Arturo is a stud, just ask Logan.
thirdly, about being unstuck...i think you're makeing it too complicated, afterall it IS just a tv show...
but i think being unstuck does NOT destroy your dubbles, it just makes you unstuck(randomly slideing w/o a timer)as for combining worlds, you can't slide if theres only one world to slide from/to right? remember, don't make it too complicated, the writers arn't physisists, even if they are educated, and even if they were, they still have to make allowenses to make the show work.
I do agree with what you said about they should have though of something...more substantial to get rid of the brothers, but remember, they were limited with JOC quitting/thretening to sue
and i like the new actors and new season(not as much as season 1,2,&part of 3)but the whole unstuck and merging thing is pretty weak, but like I(and others) said, they were limited on what they could do, not just because of JOC and COC being gone, but time wise also only so much time to come up with something.

Shril, The Hobbit.

PS.

Date: 10/18/99
From: Fish_Bone

That was suppose to be "unless you want a flame war"

Other than that, I think your ideas are great!

That's a very good point, Fish_Bone.

Date: 10/18/99
From: Brand_S

Good point, Fish_Bone. I won't berate Exec as a subject again. If a flame war ensued because of this, it'd be all my fault, and I HATE being at fault. ;-) I hereby retract that subject.

S

Actually, it's spelled "Castro"

Date: 10/18/99
From: Executive

And I've happy to say that I've never met Fidel personally!

Brand_S, you really need to stop buying into Blinker's crap about me. Anyway, I appreciate you're defending the fact that I was not the one who spammed this board. Hell, I'm hardly even using this board now that SLIDERS is all reruns for the next 2 months+!

Let's see if you can keep your word from restraining yourself from putting my name in your posts in the future just to get attention...

Appears to be original sliders theory...

Date: 10/18/99
From: Hyperspace

It seems to me that Tracy must have been thinking along the lines of Many dimensions that have evolving similiarly but made different chooses. They did not split as chooses were made, but were just individual parralel earth's that have taken different paths. This is the only way to possible have an Earth prime to come home to.
If sliders was based on either of theories that S mentioned then EP has long sense split to many times to ever go home.

Just my take,
Hyperspace

PLEASE tell me that you're kidding Exec.

Date: 10/18/99
From: darkslider

Castroation candidate:

Now, I believe in giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but I have to know: How can you be THAT retarded and still type? I swear we need an island for people with your "needs". I believe the Bikini Islands are open. Who knows, maybe with all that radioactivity, you'd actually get your IQ into the double digits.....wait, I forgot with whom I was speaking to for a second. Well, you and you mouse Algernon can still hope can't you?

Let me guess, your "Saggy Jazzercize Honeys Over 80" porno watching ass has NO IDEA what I'm talking about. Let me fill you in, Jethro:

castrato \Cas*tra"to\, n. [L., properly p. p. of castrare. See Castrate.] A male person castrated for the purpose of improving his voice for singing; an artificial, or male, soprano

I cannot believe that you in all your ...ahem...infinite wisdom you would not know what that means.....But, hey maybe all that gasoline you sniff is finally catching up with you, huh?

Brand S...you are funnier than hell my man, and right on the mark as usual!

-darkslider
http://bitch.shutdown.com(NSR Website)
www.dictionary.com -for Exec, the walking reverse in evolution.

Right on, Hyperspace!

Date: 10/18/99
From: Brand_S

The Sliders can never go home. That's the bottom line (or one of them). The reason is that there would be worlds where recent events never happened, i.e. the situations in Kosovo, Bosnia, Turkey, the Middle East; Clinton's impeachment; Bob Dole's erectile dysfunction commercials; Stanley Kubrick's death; Garth Brooks' change in style; etc. Also, the Sliders don't know that any of this has happened.

The end of "Into the Mystic" provides an excellent example of this. The Sliders didn't even know they were home because they didn't know OJ was tried for murder on our world. Even if they did get home, they'd almost definitely never even know it.

S

Beat me to it, Dark...

Date: 10/18/99
From: Blinker

But I couldn't have said it better myself. LOL!!!

As for you, Ex-Lax... that was either the weakest comeback I've heard in all my years, or the most hilarious proof of your illiteracy you've provided to date. Either way... thanks!!

Sorry... had to vent... *snickers*

(http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/545/5263)

- Blinker 7:-D
http://welcome.to/gate_haven

The way to get home...

Date: 10/18/99
From: buffyboy

Would be to either a)program the coordinates of your EP (if you knew them), or b)somehow create a gateway that locked onto the specific dimension that matched your quantum signmature (going by the continuity of the show that is, not by any real science)

I think that the dimensions in SLIDERS are, in fact, infinite(they always refer to infinite mass, possibilities,earths, etc.) but even if a "split" were to occur, it would still be an alternate reality with a seperate set of coordinates than the specific earth of your origin, and hence you would have a home earth.

Thinking of the earths as infinfite would just give you a head ache, though:)

The way I see the show is this:
We are following ONE group of Sliders (The ones we saw in the pilot,although we don't know if the professor of s3 or the Remmy and Wade of s4/5 are the ones we saw in the pilot), traveling from dimension to dimension (said dimensions being infinite), trying to find the specific point where they originated from.

I'll have to think about this tough.

BB=:~)

I Made my own Board game and...

Date: 10/18/99
From: mars2003

my friend made a Graphing Calculator game

mars_pil
Rock On Dudes

The morons (Blinker and Darkslider)

Date: 10/18/99
From: Executive

First of all, my Castro comment was not intended as a comeback -- just a bit of humor. Brand_S hasn't exactly been a saint either, accusing me of being the spammer in an earlier thread before he apologized in the same topic. I'm not looking to fight him, so what I said in response to him should have been the END of the matter. Castrato is not a commonly used word, so don't attack me just because I wasn't familiar with it.

Second, virtually every post that Darkslider continues to make is anti-Executive. I have yet to see him post anything remotely intelligent. He's lucky the Dominion staff hasn't had his sorry ass thrown off this board by now! How anybody else can't point out his rude behavior is amazing (unless of course they don't want to come under attack as I have, so they ignore him completely).

Blinker, it's bad enough you've made false accusations against me, but if you can't see that Darkslider is this board's real enemy by now than you might as well marry him. You two were made for each other!

Exec is a stupid-head.

Date: 10/19/99
From: darkslider

Oedipus:

You know as well as I do that your little Castro comment WAS a comeback, albeit an "Executive" one. You need to stop hanging out at grade schools, because it's rubbin off, champ. Look, I know that you're the "Sanitation Engineer", and all the choicest of hot, available, 60 year old lunch ladies work there, but it's time to move on. Look, if you want, I MIGHT be able to land you a sweet deal at this company I know. It's called Human Cannonball Testers Inc, and it's right up your alley. No....wait. Nevermind, you have to be able to spell your name on the application.

Let's get one thing straight too, you intellectual version of the dodo, YOU accused MANY of being the spammer, including yours truly. Brand_S had REASON to accuse you, Daniel_2. YOU had no basis whatsoever for pointing the finger at I_AM_SCIFI or myself. It's funny because I think...no I KNOW.....we agreed not to fight one another, yet your silly ass wanted the thunder. So here it is: It's obvious that you are NOT a man of your word.(Well, that should have been obvious to me from the beginning), and your contributions here are NOT productive in any way. So, I am going to treat you accordingly, which is with as much respect as you have intelligence. Let me translate for you, Copernicus: darkslider no like yous any. You are a poo-poo face.
By the way, I'm glad to see that you are now past Piaget's Concrete Operation Stage and recognize that most of my posts are anti-you. Hey, you're only about 19 years late, as most people leave that stage and have the ability to RECOGNIZE subtle things at 12! But not to worry. You're indeed "special" in your own way. Eventually, maybe abstract thought will added to that *ahem* long list of attributes you have in your description in the Potpourri Personals.

Bottom line-Lose the hairpiece, act the age that's on your Kid's Club Senior Membership card, and stop causing problems and bashing those that are clearly the Alpha Members of society. Now go clean my bathroom, Delta!

Blinker, thanks. And what do you say man: you wanna get hitched?

-darkslider
http://bitch.shutdown.com

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